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Pooja
26 Feb 2006, 12:05 AM
Several years ago, in a highschool psych. class, the teacher administered MBTI tests, and I scored as "typeless", meaning that I was exactly 50% for each letter, except "N". so I was scoring XNXX. I even took the test repeatedly in different versions, and would consistently score the same thing.
Only recently did I start scoring INTP... has anybody else here come out has "typeless"? Or, you think of yourself as a chameleon, whose type changes with their setting... Is it really possible to be typeless, or are they just not taking the test the right way?

grobyc82
26 Feb 2006, 12:58 AM
yeah, but not if your honest.

grobyc82
26 Feb 2006, 01:39 AM
So then how would you know your an INFP???

xHTx
26 Feb 2006, 01:47 AM
PoojaShmooja is hot.

Back on topic. If you're type is between the lines, consider yourself lucky because you can connect with all kinds of people. Your likelihood to have enemies is almost none. I rather be XXXX than anything else. Then again, I'll be good a NOTHING. lol.

Kljoki
26 Feb 2006, 01:51 AM
That's a bold assumption. Why would that be so, and not the other way around where all of your traits are weak and you are the pitfall of humanity?

grobyc82
26 Feb 2006, 01:59 AM
I'd like to think i'm honest when answering those questions, at least. If your right, and if most people answer based on those delusions then most people are almost the opposite of what "they truly want to be". Or at least, its a step in a directions to knowing what your not.

*Gasps* What if most of INtPcentral Is really SJ central or something else?!

xHTx
26 Feb 2006, 02:22 AM
That's a bold assumption. Why would that be so, and not the other way around where all of your traits are weak and you are the pitfall of humanity?
You're right. Basically, the weak traits show, it's a little bit of each, which the person understands a little bit of each type. They see at all angles, however, they cannot do anything about it. They are like "jack of all trades, but masters of nothing"(Type Talk quote).

Crazy
26 Feb 2006, 02:29 AM
MBTI doesn't measure traits, it measures preferences. At the time, Pooja had no preference one way or the other. She has since begun to prefer one method over the other.

xHTx
26 Feb 2006, 03:05 AM
that's why there should be tests which has no "neutral" selection, so there's FORCE preference

Ka.avik
26 Feb 2006, 04:15 AM
that's why there should be tests which has no "neutral" selection, so there's FORCE preference
may the FORCE be with you?

And, incidentally, that's about the silliest idea I've heard in a long while. You don't really have a 'neutral' test answer, often -- it's the result of testing S here, N there ... in equal numbers.

Kljoki's comment about honesty not existing is interesting, but ultimately I believe it fails too, as I've heard of a few people 'discovering' their type, whose profile totally did not match their self image, through the MBTI tests. An ENFP coworker is in this category: she's been playing ESTJ for the last three decades or more, and if I were to guess, would have thought either ISFJ or ESTJ ... but, no! Based on her answers to incremental, small, closed circumstances, she revealed her ENFP profile -- and was blown away by its accuracy.

Nemesis
26 Feb 2006, 05:00 AM
I've come out as XXXP before.

Conan
26 Feb 2006, 05:12 AM
I thought I read that the elves from Lord of the Rings were xxxx.

Nemesis
26 Feb 2006, 05:20 AM
That's just cause they're fuckin' weird man.

Conan
26 Feb 2006, 05:21 AM
That's just cause they're fuckin' weird man.

No, its because theyre perfect.

meshou
26 Feb 2006, 05:22 AM
Theoretically, one can't be typeless or borderline. However, from experience, some people are, and ignoring that there ARE people who are borderline ends up putting them in a classification that is fairly innacurate. If it's a more accurate description to say someone is borderline, then don't shoehorn them in to fit theory.

I am theoretically an INFP. I know this. However, Socionics MBTI and Keirsey are there for self exploration and description. Describing me as an INTP or an INFP would not decribe my behavior or thought processes accurately. I use this to know myself and describe myself, and I do better duty to that by calling myself an INXP. It is simply more useful than 100% following theory.

Nemesis
26 Feb 2006, 05:22 AM
No, its because theyre perfect.
Yo, like I said.

xHTx
26 Feb 2006, 05:30 AM
The elves there are living in peace all the time, which is why they are XXXX.

Shimpei
26 Feb 2006, 05:36 AM
Pooja, which of the type description fits you best? That's the question.

joft
26 Feb 2006, 06:23 AM
I dunno if I've ever revealed this in one of the "tell a secret about yourself" threads, I know I thought of it a few times while afk but don't know if I remembered to post it. the first time I took the mbti test I scored 1% in the T preference. though I scored substantially high enough on the others to be considered an IN_P at any rate, I still feel as though I contain all of the types within myself and am just selective about which to allow to surface. outside of typology I'm also consistently brought to the conclusion that I have no identity or personality.

i think on some level all of these words are just proxies for or the ideological successors of the concept of the soul, so it's no surprise to me I don't think I have one

but at the same time this also seems reminiscent of behaviorism and a hard nurture line of the nature/nurture debate. I think that if I had gone to an infp forum first instead of this one, I might have lived the past 2 years of my life completely differently, thinking of myself as an emotional dreamer and performing that role. this is weird to me because I favor nature in the nature/nurture debate, to the point that I'm disappointed when I see evolutionary psychologists distancing themselves from genetic determinism (it's the truth damnit, stop denying it!). i guess it's all paradoxical and so am I

edit: i also just remembered that back in the days when I went to church I WAS an emotional dreaming wanker. I can recall specific instances and long periods of being very outgoing and extraverted. and I swear that my judging preference can go from 100% in one extreme to the other depending on a situation. and i've been very physical and into sports and climbing trees and playing with legos and stuff like that.

i think typology may be flawed. but then again, it also seems so obvious and true. i'm having a paranoid mental breakdown right now though and thinking that everything is paradoxical and recursive and incoherent so I'll just go to bed

Hamro
26 Feb 2006, 06:24 AM
yeah. my friend came out XXXX with about 48-52% in every letter, i was trying to type him before the test and i really couldnt, hes just a bit of everything

joft
26 Feb 2006, 07:12 AM
another thing is, i don't know what i think. i can get so far along a train of thought and then stop and ask myself, is this really my position on this issue? i can debate it on a forum for days and then suddenly realize that i don't even know why i'm doing it because i don't even know what i really think about it. if i try to decide, i can't, any decision i make is dead on arrival

Eileen
26 Feb 2006, 03:08 PM
i think typology may be flawed.



:o gasp!

joft
26 Feb 2006, 03:52 PM
don't mock sleep deprived me :( now i'll like never post here again

Eileen
26 Feb 2006, 03:58 PM
don't mock sleep deprived me :( now i'll like never post here again

aww, I wasn't mocking you. I was using you to mock everyone else.

xHTx
26 Feb 2006, 06:05 PM
Typology is not flawed. It needs to be improved. There's a need to be subtypes. I'm talking MBTI. 96 subtypes instead of 16 general types. It will further define an individual, not to it's furthest, but definitely more reliable.

tinribz
26 Feb 2006, 06:23 PM
16 seems defined enuf to me.

And Elves are dull not perfect, like what would you talk about with one?

What do they talk about?

Diversity is stronger.

xHTx
27 Feb 2006, 06:38 AM
16 seems defined enuf to me.


Diversity is stronger.

Enough for now.

headfonez
27 Feb 2006, 04:32 PM
Several years ago, in a highschool psych. class, the teacher administered MBTI tests, and I scored as "typeless", meaning that I was exactly 50% for each letter, except "N". so I was scoring XNXX. I even took the test repeatedly in different versions, and would consistently score the same thing.
Only recently did I start scoring INTP... has anybody else here come out has "typeless"? Or, you think of yourself as a chameleon, whose type changes with their setting... Is it really possible to be typeless, or are they just not taking the test the right way?
where did you learn to lie

Pooja
27 Feb 2006, 05:21 PM
what? It is possible to score XXXX...it doesn't mean somebody "lied",,,

headfonez
27 Feb 2006, 05:24 PM
I was just asking. You know you're one of the sexier members on this board.