Education

[Arioch]

By popular demand I am posting a quote on Education. Please add your rant on the subject or a favorite opinion or quote.






"That erroneous assumption is to the effect that the aim of public
education is to fill the young of the species with knowledge and awaken
their intelligence, and so make them fit to discharge the duties of
citizenship in an enlightened and independent manner. Nothing could be
further from the truth.

"The aim of public education is not to spread enlightenment at all, it
is simply to reduce as many individuals as possible to the same safe
level, to breed and train a standardized citizenry, to put down dissent
and originality. That is its aim in the United States, whatever the
pretensions of politicians, pedagogues and other such mountebanks, and
that is its aim everywhere else."

--H L. Mencken

[indczn]

Sad but true....
Sums up most of my thoughts on the education system i am currently suffering through.

[int]

Once teachers are allowed to focus on the individual student I'll be happy.

[jimkopelli]

There's a Pratchett quote I want to post... but I don't have it accesible at the moment.

[Ckyzxr]

So little "education" prepares one for real life, it's truly a shame.

[Arioch]

Once teachers are allowed to focus on the individual student I'll be happy.

I was talking to a headmistress of a school and it turns out that education is either for actually raise the person and improve his or her standard of life or prepare him for a job later on. Far too often schools must do the second or send lots of well adujsted students out onto the world with no job prospects

[Claverhouse]

And also, don't forget, to keep hordes of young people ( due to the old patriarchal state interference by do-gooders who never understood libertarian idealism, temporarily unsuited to the job market ) battened down and off the streets.

I'm not joking: it's a necessary form of social control through conditioning. You want gangs of small kids wandering around throwing stones ?



Claverhouse :ph34r:

[Division56]

I like throwing stones.

[Sam172]

I like education :)

[jimkopelli]

This isn't the one I was thinking of, but it'll do for now.

Getting an education was a bit like a communicable sexual disease. It made you unsuitable for a lot of jobs and then you had the urge to pass it on.

[Boozer]

I love education but school sucked until college, where I could learn at my own relatively quick pace and take the classes I liked. Plus in college I could safely ingore the bad teachers and not go to class except for the tests. I would just teach it to myself then prove it to the teacher for my A. Classes that took attendance were dropped post haste.

[Claverhouse]

Plus in college I could safely ingore the bad teachers and not go to class except for the tests.


Yay ! Go Miskatonic ! Ra Ra Ra. !




Claverhouse :ph34r:

[Boozer]

I guess I shouldn't have ignored my spelling teachers so much... :whistle:

[Arioch]

And also, don't forget, to keep hordes of young people ( due to the old patriarchal state interference by do-gooders who never understood libertarian idealism, temporarily unsuited to the job market ) battened down and off the streets.

I'm not joking: it's a necessary form of social control through conditioning. You want gangs of small kids wandering around throwing stones ?



Claverhouse :ph34r:

Yes that was definately a part of it. I think that it's still partly that way thou.... nobody wants to admit it. None of the teachers and such

[Miss Padfoot]

Terry Pratchett is a fucking genius.

I've never been a victim of public education. I go to a private school where there's a fair amount of stupid busy work, but fortunately we're taught how to think, not what to think. Well, in the high school anyway. The middle and lower schools weren't so enlightened.

[Avengardh]

I think you know what I think about education...specially up here, but let's just say it's a nice way of controlling people, specially the young ones.

I wish I had had an education within my country but then again...accomplishments aren't really "rewarded" there.

~*Aven*~

[Salad]

So little "education" prepares one for real life, it's truly a shame.

i actually don't think that education should prepare people for the real world at all, at least not literally. i am of course speaking only for myself and realize this is a case by case thing, but if you learn how the world works before you enter it you'll never question its conventions.

i prefer learning useless "theoretical" information such as how the word noise would look and feel spacially (i am an architecture major) rather than "practical" information such as handicap requirements in comercial buildings. i'll eventually learn these practical things once i reach the real world (and i'm well aware it may hit me like a ton of bricks), but i'll never again have the chance to begin with idealism.

my hope is that once i reach the real world my design theory and ideals will be strong enough to survive a world full of money and consumerism.

[ohnoaninfp]

I am kind of apathetic towards eduacation.now. I like it, but then I don't

[Claverhouse]

Another quote:


The so-called 'intellectuals' always look down with infinite condescension on anyone who has not been dragged through the obligatory schools and had the necessary knowledge pumped into his brains. The question has never been: What can this man do? but, What has he learned? To these 'educated' people, the greatest empty-head, if he is wrapped in enough diplomas, is worth more than the ablest young fellow who happens to lack these precious paper rags.




Claverhouse :ph34r:


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[Google Monster]

Education has forsaken me! Public education anyway, bu i'm doing good on my own.