Who's Typing the Types?

[Johnny]

O.K. so we all know how the MBTI goes down...you do the test, you determine your type, and if you don't like it you change it to meet your self-conception.

But many of us INTP'ers don't use type theory to publicly wallow in ourselves. As Ne's, we usually look to the world around us...and of course naturally impose our own rational models up against it.

Sometimes I wonder if I ever was able to look at the world without some mentally-charged "template" getting in the way :banghead: :crazy:

On this thread, we get to be real INTP'ers...not just self-proclaimed INTP'ers. Which types are reflected in the members around you?

I, so far, see anyone who posts to a thread as a J-type if they are posting assertions (especially assertions that contradict mine!).

[Johnny]

Anyone who doesn't agree with what everything I offer means in the "scheme of things" is a Senser

Anyone who disagrees with what I say is a Feeler

Anyone who offers a response at all is an Extravert LOL

:devil:

[abathur]

what?

[Wiki]

Is it theoretically possible for a person to act like an S, but think like and N?

Does this conflict with the types theory? I swear my brother is capable.

(Im back! Beach was fun, weather was mixed, postponed vegas yet again)

[Snowflake]

There's nothing that says it isn't. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if there are Ns who act like Ss, considering Ns are relatively uncommon.

[Johnny]

Hmm I was tinkering with perception alone but now that you guys bring in the thought/action dilemma this is all getting even slippier

From my (limited) understanding, MBTI is entirely concerned with our own personal attitude towards ourselves...how we see ourselves. MBTI isn't concerned with any outside influences or social issues that don't help us assess and confirm this attitude, and that includes opinions of others about us.

[booyalab]

Is it theoretically possible for a person to act like an S, but think like and N?

everyone acts like an S

[Xander]

I've had MBTI explained as "cognitive wiring" by a professional. As such it describes not image at all but process.
Some do "play to type" but that is more bowing to exterior pressure (I'd guess) and avoiding potential issues within themselves.
As for J's being the only one's to start threads, well that doesn't hold water any better than a collendar. A P doesn't decide but this does not preclude investigation (If you see what I mean).

[Edmond Zedo]

Intps mirror, irregardless [sic].

[ptGatsby]

I've had MBTI explained as "cognitive wiring" by a professional. As such it describes not image at all but process.


Exactly.

MBTI and the functions are 100% cognitive. They are never able to be observed, not even falsified. The whole concept of traits is that certain types tend to have certain traits; if you are a feeler, you tend to decide based on (x) factors... while a T would base their decisions on (y) factors. As a result, if you are said to act in in line with (x), you are an F - but there is no direct way of testing this correctly.

Now, there is increasing evidence for cognitive types being somewhat accurate and MBTI/etc will probably become extinct in the next couple of decades; a lot of 'brain scans' have turned up significantly different activity in the brains between those commonly referred to as Fs and Ts and with Ns and Ss. (Never heard of anything being done for E-I and P-J)

And statistically, trait tests, especially risk management and the like, have shown consistent differences between the two. Reality also reflects this in the corporate environment, at least as far as T's and J's go.

All that can be said is that the process is extremely influential on how you deal with situations and how you will fit into society.

[Xander]

Exactly.

MBTI and the functions are 100% cognitive. They are never able to be observed, not even falsified. The whole concept of traits is that certain types tend to have certain traits; if you are a feeler, you tend to decide based on (x) factors... while a T would base their decisions on (y) factors. As a result, if you are said to act in in line with (x), you are an F - but there is no direct way of testing this correctly.

Now, there is increasing evidence for cognitive types being somewhat accurate and MBTI/etc will probably become extinct in the next couple of decades; a lot of 'brain scans' have turned up significantly different activity in the brains between those commonly referred to as Fs and Ts and with Ns and Ss. (Never heard of anything being done for E-I and P-J)

And statistically, trait tests, especially risk management and the like, have shown consistent differences between the two. Reality also reflects this in the corporate environment, at least as far as T's and J's go.

All that can be said is that the process is extremely influential on how you deal with situations and how you will fit into society.
these "accurate" tests sound far too SJ for me. It tries to say that a human can grade another without subjectivity which is crap. The day they tell you that they have figure out the human psyche tell them from me they've missed something.