summarizing the INTP in 50-100 bullet points

[file cabinet]

my first one:
- talking on the phone is horrible

I figure if we get at least 50 bullets then I could post them on the main page. we get to debate/elaborate each point if needed... so.. yeah..
Right now we are creating the rough draft.. final editing will be done after the point mark
Any remarks on on a bullet point will be added as a sub-point

talking on the phone is horrible(in general)
I may not like talking on the phone to most people, but I've had very good phone conversations with people I like.
variety is good
Problem-solving = fun!

I don't really care, I just look like I do.
approaching unfamiliar people = not fun!
Has little love for humanity
If humanity was eaten by an alien mutant race, I would care.
Organization = waste of time.
There are different types of organization. The word simply refers to what is simultaneous with what. Mental organization is what enables INTPs to be logically coherent and detect inconsistencies in what people say. You're probably talking about physically organizing your belongings.
team work is terrible
Why do today what you can put off until tommorow?
that's funny, I've been saying the following for years: "never put off 'til tomorrow that which can wait a week or even longer."
"Yeah, I'll do it; one week from some Sunday"
Please stop the voices in my head, I'm trying to sleep.
Work best independantly, and make excellent workplace telecommuters
Absolute directness is essential, & appreciated
Because what better friend could there be, than someone who is absolutely direct with you? Even IF it separates you from them, its better. Wheres the goodness in being lied to, for the sake of temporary peace?)
Physical Science and Math are fun
you insane fucker, I veto this. Stereotyped bollocks.
It's nothing personal
The first to think and the last to know.
repetition doesnt work out in a career
I have something to prove to myself, but not to anyone else.
I am smiling=most likely I'm thinking something novel or out of tandem.
"So... what IS the meaning of life?"
"I wonder if..."
Intelligence weighs heavier then fair looks.
"For a person who feels, life is a tragedy; for a person who thinks, it is a comedy." - Voltaire
I can do it myself. Seriously
variation - I can figure it out myself.
A bookshelf of the right size is a turn on.
Does it count if I have enough books for a really big bookshelf, but haven't gotten around to getting one yet?
It counts. It's all about the books
"You might think I'm listening to you......"
Idolizes Einstien
"Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts."
"Things should be made as simple as possible, but not any simpler."
"Think too much!" - Impossible
"Think too much? Impossible!"
Has anyone seen my keys?
Nevermind, they were in my pants.
attracted to like minds
Whoever wonders why a INTP wishes to be a hermit has only to open his eyes and look on the world and his fellow man OR "looks at reality objectively... this often causes depression and the desire to live as a hermit"
serenity now!!!
senility now!
*start whistling* "Just a spoon of Judging makes reality go down/Reality go dooowwwwn, reality go down / Just a spoon of Judging makes reality go down / In a most efficient way * end whistling *
"I'm sorry I have a brain"
My standard response when I say something completely obvious and people accuse me of being insightful. I started saying this when i realized "It's not me who's smart, it's you who's dumb" sometimes offended people.
"It is better to debate a question without settling it than to settle a question without debating it."
Yay for that which is elusively obvious
Serial hobbyist
I don't care if you understand me, or even if you like me, but I do want you to know that I'm a great thinker.
No, I don't think we need to have a meeting about it.
INTP: Just do it.....some other time
You see a messy house, I see only what pertains to what I'm doing right now
has trouble thinking inside the box.
huh? Sorry I was thinking of something else
What time is it? ... Come to think of it what *year* is it?
Don't you DARE call me a liar! Unless of course I'm lying.
I don't want to know where you pulled that idea from, but I hope you don't eat with that hand.
I'd rather pick from twenty things that I need to do than only have to do one thing.
I've planned out the exact way I'm going to start talking to her so that it seems casual and unplanned.
Not only that but I also planned what she would say in return and what I would say to that etc etc
Why must I always be right... except when I'm wrong.
Q. "Lost in thought?" A. "Not lost. Exploring."
IMSO... In my superior opinion...
Sometimes I think the only thing between me and greatness is sanity.
"Of course I lack common sense. From my eyes, you lack innocence and innovation."
"Curiosity killed the cat, but I bet it wasn't thinking ahead."
"No, I don't know what I'm doing with this yet. Wanna help me out? You seem like you care."
Why should I have common sense? There's nothing common about me!
"Don't waste your'e time trying to make me agree with you, I can't even agree with myself, I have no opinions, only ideas"
question everything, even question why you question everything.
Why?
Why not?
Do I think too much, or do you think too little?
If you know you are right, I'm pretty damn sure you might be wrong.
Got a pen and paper? You'll need a map to see where my thoughts have gone.
I'm not arguing with you, I'm bonding.
I flee from stereotypes like others flock to fashion.
I know I can do anything, because I commit to nothing.
Suffers from multiple project disorder.
Psychoanalyzes self?
improvising is very enjoyable; following specifics is mundane

[cosmic06]

-variety is good

[Odyssey]

- Problem-solving = fun!

[Avengardh]

- I don't really care, I just look like I do.

[Arcael]

-approaching unfamiliar people = not fun!

[Arioch]

- Has little love for humanity

[MacGuffin]

Organization = waste of time.

[anarchist]

team work is terrible

[Boozer]

Why do today what you can put off until tommorow?

[Boozer]

Please stop the voices in my head, I'm trying to sleep.

[Birdsnest]

Work best independantly, and make excellent workplace telecommuters

[Arioch]

Please stop the voices in my head, I'm trying to sleep.

Oh I like that one

[MacGuffin]

- Has little love for humanity

I wouldn't go that far.



Please stop the voices in my head, I'm trying to sleep.

Oh I like that one

I like that one too. But for me, it is more a singular voice: my own.

[cloakable]

Please stop the voices in my head, I'm trying to sleep.

Oh I like that one

I don't, it keeps me awake at night (the voices, not the post) :D :ph34r:

[shaytana]

-Oh, the irony

sorry, just had to

[Boozer]

- Has little love for humanity

I wouldn't go that far.



Please stop the voices in my head, I'm trying to sleep.

Oh I like that one

I like that one too. But for me, it is more a singular voice: my own.

That's true it's probably better singular, I just thought it was funnier this way.

[KentOhio]

Hooray for conflict!

[Birdsnest]

* Absolute directness is essential, & appreciated.


Because what better friend could there be, than someone who is absolutely direct with you? Even IF it separates you from them, its better. Wheres the goodness in being lied to, for the sake of temporary peace?.

[Arcael]

-Physical Science and Math are fun

[Claverhouse]

It's nothing personal.



Claverhouse :ph34r:

[booyalab]

talking on the phone is horrible
This is too broad a statement about such a specific activity.
I may not like talking on the phone to most people, but I've had very good phone conversations with people I like.

Has little love for humanity
I wouldn't go this far either. If humanity was eaten by an alien mutant race, I would care.

Organization=waste of time
There are different types of organization. The word simply refers to what is simultaneous with what. Mental organization is what enables INTPs to be logically coherent and detect inconsistencies in what people say. You're probably talking about physically organizing your belongings.


-complaining is more fun than doing

[Johnny]

The first to think and the last to know.

:lol:

*edit: hey, I don't remember adding that in the title bar!

[cjs55]

^^ Good one ; )

[Melody]

is retarded

[file cabinet]

is retarded

too vague :wub: not added

[Arcael]

repeatition doesnt work out in a career

[Almaviva]

I have something to prove to myself, but not to anyone else.

[CloudofOlivia]

I am smiling=most likely I'm thinking something novel or out of tandem.

[CloudofOlivia]

I am smiling=most likely I'm thinking something novel or out of tandem.

[Slider]

-Physical Science and Math are fun

you insane fucker, I veto this. Stereotyped bollocks.

[Arcael]

-Physical Science and Math are fun

you insane fucker, I veto this. Stereotyped bollocks.

Chemistry > you :devil:

[Melody]

is mentally retarded? =b

[file cabinet]

is mentally retarded? =b

so you believe you are mentally retarded?

[Odyssey]

"So... what IS the meaning of life?"

~Odyssey

[Odyssey]

"I wonder if..."

~Odyssey

[Arioch]

Intelligence weighs heavier then fair looks.

[Melody]

is mentally retarded? =b

so you believe you are mentally retarded?
yes

for example

i cannot memorize

[file cabinet]

is mentally retarded? =b

so you believe you are mentally retarded?
yes

for example

i cannot memorize

how would that make someone retarded?

[Melody]

cuz if they are playing a game called 'mentally' that requires a lot of memorization

if they cannot memorize

it could be said they r mentally retarded

[file cabinet]

cuz if they are playing a game called 'mentally' that requires a lot of memorization

if they cannot memorize

it could be said they r mentally retarded

maybe if you use the definition very loosely.



The 'Lectric Law Library's Lexicon On
MENTALLY RETARDED - Significantly subaverage general intellectual functioning existing concurrently with deficits in adaptive behavior and manifested during the developmental period, which adversely affects a child's educational performance. from the Bilingual Education Act.
src: http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/m027.htm



Mental retardation is a developmental disability that first appears in children under the age of 18. It is defined as an intellectual functioning level (as measured by standard tests for intelligence quotient) that is well below average and significant limitations in daily living skills (adaptive functioning).
Mental retardation occurs in 2.5-3% of the general population. About 6-7.5 million mentally retarded individuals live in the United States alone. Mental retardation begins in childhood or adolescence before the age of 18. In most cases, it persists throughout adulthood. A diagnosis of mental retardation is made if an individual has an intellectual functioning level well below average and significant limitations in two or more adaptive skill areas. Intellectual functioning level is defined by standardized tests that measure the ability to reason in terms of mental age (intelligence quotient or IQ). Mental retardation is defined as IQ score below 70-75. Adaptive skills are the skills needed for daily life. Such skills include the ability to produce and understand language (communication); home-living skills; use of community resources; health, safety, leisure, self-care, and social skills; self-direction; functional academic skills (reading, writing, and arithmetic); and work skills.
src: http://www.chclibrary.org/micromed/00056550.html



Mental retardation is described as below-average general intellectual function with associated deficits in adaptive behavior that occurs before age 18.
src: http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001523.htm

[Melody]

:P

i mean if they are playing a game called 'mentally'

ur quotes do not take this into account

[Melody]

i guess it was not clear

im just screwing around =b

must be my typnig style

[file cabinet]

:P

i mean if they are playing a game called 'mentally'

ur quotes do not take this into account

oh! mmm well, maybe you're right... if anyone else agrees with you I'll add it to the list. B)

[Melody]

dictator!

or more like a form of democracy

nvm

[file cabinet]

bumping so other people can add to the list.. keep'm coming...

[jimkopelli]

I like the new thingy in my signature...
"For a person who feels, life is a tragedy; for a person who thinks, it is a comedy."

[booyalab]

I like the new thingy in my signature...
"For a person who feels, life is a tragedy; for a person who thinks, it is a comedy."
- Voltaire

This quote made me think of another one, it's by Mel Brooks. "Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you fall down an open sewer and die."

[jimkopelli]

Is that who that is? Thankee, I was wondering. Brooks is awesome.

[Witticism]

I can do it myself.

Seriously.

[booyalab]

Is that who that is? Thankee, I was wondering. Brooks is awesome.

I know! He makes me laughgasm

[Ponderous]

- A bookshelf of the right size is a turn on.

[nobarcode]

-Oh, the irony

sorry, just had to
If you hadn't, I would have. It was the first thing I thought of actually.

mine:
"You might think I'm listening to you......"

I like Mel Brooks as well.

[Boozer]

- A bookshelf of the right size is a turn on.

Does it count if I have enough books for a really big bookshelf, but haven't gotten around to getting one yet? :)

[Boozer]

- Idolizes Einstien

[file cabinet]

updated the list.. a minimum of 24 to go.

[Strephonade]

- Idolizes Einstien

He's my hero!

But, back to the topic at hand--


- attracted to like minds

[Arioch]

Whoever wonders why a INTP wishes to be a hermit has only to open his eyes and look on the world and his fellow man.

or

"looks at reality objectively... this often causes depression and the desire to live as a hermit"

[Division56]

-serenity now!!!

[Ponderous]

- A bookshelf of the right size is a turn on.

Does it count if I have enough books for a really big bookshelf, but haven't gotten around to getting one yet? :)

It counts. It's all about the books. ;)

[Melody]

senility now!

[Johnny]

- Idolizes Einstien

:lol:

Mel Brooks strikes again...

[greenintp]

"Think too much!" - Impossible

[MacGuffin]

"Think too much!" - Impossible

More like: "Think too much? Impossible!"

[s]

Has anyone seen my keys?

[s]

Nevermind, they were in my pants.

[Claverhouse]

Nevermind, they were in my pants.

Not really suitable for an international audience...



Claverhouse :ph34r:

[s]

Uh, trousers? Jeans? Slacks?

I am just another imperialistic and ethnocentric American... forgive me.. I forgot to some "pants" mean underwear and a slag term. Actually, have you seen my uniform?

Would "bloody pants" be more offensive than digusting? :D

[Arioch]

:whistle: "Just a spoon of Judging makes reality go down :whistle:
:whistle: Reality go dooowwwwn, reality go down :whistle:
:whistle: Just a spoon of Judging makes reality go down :whistle:
:whistle: In a most efficient way :whistle:

Thought we needed something different for the list.
Came to me when I was thinking of how to handle different things in my life

[Werdna]

"I'm sorry I have a brain"

My standard response when I say something completely obvious and people accuse me of being insightful. I started saying this when i realized "It's not me who's smart, it's you who's dumb" sometimes offended people.

[Boozer]

I started saying this when i realized "It's not me who's smart, it's you who's dumb" sometimes offended people.

:rofl: only sometimes?

[file cabinet]

keep'm coming. we can do it! minimum of 16 to go.

[Odyssey]

"It is better to debate a question without settling it than to settle a question without debating it." *cough* =)

(Yay for that which is elusively obvious)

~Odyssey

[MacGuffin]

From SheepDog's thread:

Serial hobbyist

[sbw]

re. item #9

that's funny, I've been saying the following for years: "never put off 'til tomorrow that which can wait a week or even longer."

BTW, I'm new!

Scott

[nobarcode]

An additional #9 addition:

"Yeah, I'll do it; one week from some Sunday"

[SheepDog]

From SheepDog's thread:

Serial hobbyist
Sad, but that was given to me by my ESTJ brother.

[SheepDog]

I can do it myself.

Seriously.
variation - I can figure it out myself.

[SheepDog]

- Idolizes Einstien
"Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts."
"Things should be made as simple as possible, but not any simpler."

[SheepDog]

I don't care if you understand me, or even if you like me, but I do want you to know that I'm a great thinker.

[int]

No, I don't think we need to have a meeting about it.

[MacGuffin]

No, I don't think we need to have a meeting about it.

:thumbup:

[file cabinet]

keep'm coming.... 13 more.. * rakes everyone through the coals *

[Crazy]

-INTP: Just do it.....some other time


-You see a messy house, I see only what pertains to what I'm doing right now

[booyalab]

-has trouble thinking inside the box.

[xavierd]

"Imagination is more important than knowledge."
-Albert Einstein

"The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible."
-Arthur C. Clarke

"Ignorance is not bliss - it is oblivion."
-Philip Wylie

"The nake truth is always better than the best-dressed lie."
-Ann Landers

[Arioch]

huh? Sorry I was thinking of something else

[Arioch]

What time is it? ... Come to think of it what *year* is it?

[file cabinet]

"Imagination is more important than knowledge."
-Albert Einstein

"The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible."
-Arthur C. Clarke

"Ignorance is not bliss - it is oblivion."
-Philip Wylie

"The nake truth is always better than the best-dressed lie."
-Ann Landers

these should go in the quotes thread... I'll let booyalab glean those quotes for her needs.
Reference:
http://www.intpcentral.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1013
posted them there for you, check page 2.

[KoDeN]

Dunno if these are INTP or just me but....

-Don't you DARE call me a liar! Unless of course I'm lying.

-I don't want to know where you pulled that idea from, but I hope you don't eat with that hand.

-I'd rather pick from twenty things that I need to do than only have to do one thing.

-I've planned out the exact way I'm going to start talking to her so that it seems casual and unplanned.

[Boozer]

-I've planned out the exact way I'm going to start talking to her so that it seems casual and unplanned.

:rofl:

[Boozer]

-has trouble thinking inside the box. :D

[INTrPosr]

variety is good
Problem-solving = fun!
I don't really care, I just look like I do.
Physical Science and Math are fun
you insane fucker, I veto this. Stereotyped bollocks.
I have something to prove to myself, but not to anyone else.
Intelligence weighs heavier then fair looks.
I can do it myself. Seriously!!! variation - I can figure it out myself. Seriously!!!
A bookshelf of the right size is a turn on.
"You might think I'm listening to you......"
Whoever wonders why a INTP wishes to be a hermit has only to open his eyes and look on the world and his fellow man OR "looks at reality objectively... this often causes depression and the desire to live as a hermit"
serenity now!!!
"I'm sorry I have a brain"
My standard response when I say something completely obvious and people accuse me of being insightful. I started saying this when i realized.
Yay for that which is elusively obvious
I don't care if you understand me, or even if you like me, but I do want you to know that I'm a great thinker.
No, I don't think we need to have a meeting about it.
has trouble thinking inside the box.
Sorry I was thinking of something else

Figured I would put my vote in for all of those that I liked, to preclude too many post.

[Arioch]

Dunno if these are INTP or just me but....

-I've planned out the exact way I'm going to start talking to her so that it seems casual and unplanned.

Not only that but I also planned what she would say in return and what I would say to that etc etc etc

Why must I always be right... except when I'm wrong.

[Dunearhp]

Q. "Lost in thought?"

A. "Not lost. Exploring."

[sbw]

Q. "Lost in thought?"

A. "Not lost. Exploring."

good one!

Scott

[file cabinet]

2 more..

[KoDeN]

Can anyone else relate to the righteous indignation when accused of lying while telling the truth, and being most often complacent when actually caught in a lie?

these any good? second one is iffy.

-IMSO... In my superior opinion...

-Sometimes I think the only thing between me and greatness is sanity.

[Sackanaka]

"Of course I lack common sense. From my eyes, you lack innocence and innovation."

"Curiosity killed the cat, but I bet it wasn't thinking ahead."

"No, I don't know what I'm doing with this yet. Wanna help me out? You seem like you care."

[Boneca]

Why should I have common sense? There's nothing common about me!

[file cabinet]

after about a month we finally reached the goal.. neat, I guess. I will post them on the main site.. or maybe the bullet points should go under review by the community beforehand?

[INTrPosr]

Can anyone else relate to the righteous indignation when accused of lying while telling the truth, and being most often complacent when actually caught in a lie?

Yep, all of the time. I hate getting caught when least expected, in fact have a phobia. I totally resent when my integrity is questioned when being honest.

[KoDeN]

Actually I think its probably a necessity :) as long as we dont need to have a meeting about it.

[KoDeN]

Yeah, I can tell a damn good lie. I can craft a masterpiece of a story. And all INTP's are great at lieing when it comes to avoiding social obligations.

heres one.
-Even if you have no intention whatsoever of going, or if you will absolutely be there even though hell might freeze over... "maybe" is still the best answer.

[Arcael]

heres one

-If you dont spell things correctly I will fucking kill you :P

[cloakable]

heres one

-If you dont spell things correctly I will fucking kill you :P

*slays Arcael* :ph34r:
It's don't, not dont. :D :rofl: :devil: :nerd:

[Arcael]

pffft apostrophes are for sissies

[jimkopelli]

And grammar fiends... What about punctuation? Does that warrant a slaying as well? Maybe not a full kill...
*cuts Arcael's head halfway off...)

[Arcael]

I cant remember what author it was, but he didn't use much punctuation. He didnt seperate paragraphs out either, he just wrote continuously without pause.

[Sackanaka]

Sounds like Grapes of Wrath, at least from what I remember what my english teacher in high school mentioned on it.

[athman]

Could be James Joyce, the Irish writer.

[Arcael]

Could be James Joyce, the Irish writer.

That was it, thanks :D

[Arioch]

Another one for the bullet.

INTP's are sharing people. Especially when annoyed or agitated

[indie]

Oh, I love this thread. . . if it's not too late, here's one:

- A messy desk is the sign of an organized mind.

[null-tE]

"Think too much!" - Impossible
so true, and the reason so few will play chess with me, or any other complex strategy game. I could spend five minutes deciding upon a move, if it wernt for that 'opponent' who always nags me to hurry up

[Anacaona]

I like that one:

- I don't really care, I just look like I do.

[HackerX]

Who cares? I care, just not the way you care...

...and maybe not right now, I have other things on my mind

[cuspuser]

if i counted right, tho all the 's made it much more confusing there were fourty-eight points ... in which case [49] could be ... making a list of 50 things and stopping at 48 ... or 49 if you count that one ... or paraphased so its funnier :S

[Lee]

"Don't waste your'e time trying to make me agree with you, I can't even agree with myself, I have no opinions, only ideas"

[Lee]

question everything, even question why you question everything.

[Garyincinci]

The best I could come up with....

* Why?

* Why not?

* Do I think too much, or do you think too little?

[Killsteel]

Hey, dudes, just a little thing, does anyone mind if I use these in my MSN thingies?

[lexiphanic]

*If you know you are right, I'm pretty damn sure you might be wrong.

*Got a pen and paper? You'll need a map to see where my thoughts have gone.

*I'm not arguing with you, I'm bonding.

[lexiphanic]

I flee from stereotypes like others flock to fashion.

[lexiphanic]

I know I can do anything, because I commit to nothing.

[Ascending]

Suffers from multiple project disorder.

[euterpenc]

Psychoanalyzes self?

[Killsteel]

Suffers from multiple project disorder.

Damn straight!

*does odd things with the pavement while walking

[Crazy]

Suffers from multiple project disorder.

-Will start a list of "things left unfinished", but won't finish the list.

[sbw]

The best I could come up with....

* Why?

* Why not?

* Do I think too much, or do you think too little?


I like these. I seem to get that last one as an admonition frequently.

Scott

[file cabinet]

mm.. I forgot about this thread.. maybe it's time I did what I said I would do?

[jetboots]

improvising is very enjoyable; following specifics is mundane

[Warrior413]

-Physical Science and Math are fun
To zone out in.

[nobarcode]

mm.. I forgot about this thread.. maybe it's time I did what I said I would do?
I'm totally confused by all the "editing" you did to your first post.

So, would that be under 2a ? ;P

[file cabinet]

I'm totally confused by all the "editing" you did to your first post.

So, would that be under 2a ? ;P

ahh.. I fixed it.. the post was originally done in phpBB so I guess it's been fucked since the move to vbulletin.. I have fixed it now... and.. I added in the new points that were made..

[JF_Aidan_Pryde]

Reality can not be described, only perception.

[euterpenc]

I would have figured it out... eventually.

or

I'll figure it out... eventually.

[euterpenc]

My house is falling apart?! *shrugs*

Love? Well I could always explain it to you in terms of science...

Reality? Ridiculous!

Did I forget to eat today?

Capable of living in a one room house.

*obscure commonly unfunny joke* HAHAHAHA!

[Geoff]

I may not know what I need, but I do need to know.

-Geoff

[Geoff]

Must remember to read the question

-Geoff

[euterpenc]

Must remember to read the question

-Geoff

AMEN

[Lee]

*silence*

[euterpenc]

"If I can do it myself, so can you."

"Disease? Bah! That's Just an excuse!"

*recluse*

*laughs at common people*

[Warrior413]

How did I get here? What is my purpose here? Oh yeah, a toilet.

[jyakulis]

Has anyone seen my keys?
Nevermind, they were in my pants.

[Star Cannon]

*The rest of the can't argue...

[Star Cannon]

improvising is very enjoyable; following specifics is mundane

[lexiphanic]

Allot of these are VERY subjective.

[euterpenc]

introverts tend to be that way

[Lee]

Likes to condense as much meaning as possible into as few words as possible.

possible final bullet point:

"Like to devise bullet pointed lists about themselves"

[Killsteel]

Likes to condense as much meaning as possible into as few words as possible.

Damn straight!

*Doesn't accept pointless rules/laws

[glassmoon]

Likes to condense as much meaning as possible into as few words as possible.

possible final bullet point:

"Like to devise bullet pointed lists about themselves"
Hmmm...

INTPs exhibit the greatest precision in thought and language of all the type; they tend to see distinctions and inconsistencies in thought and language instantaneously. The one word which captures the unique style of INTPs is architect - the architect of ideas and systems as well as the arhitect of edifices.

[glassmoon]

Me: Why don't you .... ?
Myself: Yes, but ...
I: That's just an excuse.


I know it's lame... but I'm more ENTP than INTP and that's what I could think of...

[Roger]

Regarding the lying. I think I can lie quite welll. BUt I do it do infrequently
to really know for sure. But when I detect that people think I am lying when
I am not I have to start smiling.. and can't stop..
That is really weird... anybody else have that.

Some other points.
INTP.. first type to have a website dedicated to themselves.

Has 42 windows open on their PC .

screen.http://forums.intpcentral.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=54387#
http://forums.intpcentral.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=54387#

[Crazy]

*Problems dealing with authority, including alarm clocks.

[glassmoon]

Regarding the lying. I think I can lie quite welll. BUt I do it do infrequently to really know for sure. But when I detect that people think I am lying when I am not I have to start smiling.. and can't stop..
That is really weird... anybody else have that.
I have that. It's almost as if I want to be caught...


...INTPs detest facades and particulary dislike people who exhibit them. Equally, those kind of people also dislike INTPs and avoid them at all cost, for they know that the INTP will see right through them. ...

[euterpenc]

Me: Why don't you .... ?
Myself: Yes, but ...
I: That's just an excuse.


I know it's lame... but I'm more ENTP than INTP and that's what I could think of...

I like this one. I do it all the time.

[MacGuffin]

my first one:
- talking on the phone is horrible

I figure if we get at least 50 bullets then I could post them on the main page. we get to debate/elaborate each point if needed... so.. yeah..
Right now we are creating the rough draft.. final editing will be done after the point mark
Any remarks on on a bullet point will be added as a sub-point


talking on the phone is horrible(in general)

I may not like talking on the phone to most people, but I've had very good phone conversations with people I like.

variety is good
Problem-solving = fun!


I don't really care, I just look like I do.
approaching unfamiliar people = not fun!
Has little love for humanity


If humanity was eaten by an alien mutant race, I would care.

Organization = waste of time.


There are different types of organization. The word simply refers to what is simultaneous with what. Mental organization is what enables INTPs to be logically coherent and detect inconsistencies in what people say. You're probably talking about physically organizing your belongings.

team work is terrible
Why do today what you can put off until tommorow?


that's funny, I've been saying the following for years: "never put off 'til tomorrow that which can wait a week or even longer."
"Yeah, I'll do it; one week from some Sunday"

Please stop the voices in my head, I'm trying to sleep.
Work best independantly, and make excellent workplace telecommuters
Absolute directness is essential, & appreciated


Because what better friend could there be, than someone who is absolutely direct with you? Even IF it separates you from them, its better. Wheres the goodness in being lied to, for the sake of temporary peace?)

Physical Science and Math are fun


you insane fucker, I veto this. Stereotyped bollocks.

It's nothing personal
The first to think and the last to know.
repetition doesnt work out in a career
I have something to prove to myself, but not to anyone else.
I am smiling=most likely I'm thinking something novel or out of tandem.
"So... what IS the meaning of life?"
"I wonder if..."
Intelligence weighs heavier then fair looks.
"For a person who feels, life is a tragedy; for a person who thinks, it is a comedy." - Voltaire
I can do it myself. Seriously


variation - I can figure it out myself.

A bookshelf of the right size is a turn on.


Does it count if I have enough books for a really big bookshelf, but haven't gotten around to getting one yet?
It counts. It's all about the books

"You might think I'm listening to you......"
Idolizes Einstien


"Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts."
"Things should be made as simple as possible, but not any simpler."

"Think too much!" - Impossible


"Think too much? Impossible!"

Has anyone seen my keys?


Nevermind, they were in my pants.

attracted to like minds
Whoever wonders why a INTP wishes to be a hermit has only to open his eyes and look on the world and his fellow man OR "looks at reality objectively... this often causes depression and the desire to live as a hermit"
serenity now!!!


senility now!

*start whistling* "Just a spoon of Judging makes reality go down/Reality go dooowwwwn, reality go down / Just a spoon of Judging makes reality go down / In a most efficient way * end whistling *
"I'm sorry I have a brain"


My standard response when I say something completely obvious and people accuse me of being insightful. I started saying this when i realized "It's not me who's smart, it's you who's dumb" sometimes offended people.

"It is better to debate a question without settling it than to settle a question without debating it."


Yay for that which is elusively obvious

Serial hobbyist
I don't care if you understand me, or even if you like me, but I do want you to know that I'm a great thinker.
No, I don't think we need to have a meeting about it.
INTP: Just do it.....some other time
You see a messy house, I see only what pertains to what I'm doing right now
has trouble thinking inside the box.
huh? Sorry I was thinking of something else
What time is it? ... Come to think of it what *year* is it?
Don't you DARE call me a liar! Unless of course I'm lying.
I don't want to know where you pulled that idea from, but I hope you don't eat with that hand.
I'd rather pick from twenty things that I need to do than only have to do one thing.
I've planned out the exact way I'm going to start talking to her so that it seems casual and unplanned.


Not only that but I also planned what she would say in return and what I would say to that etc etc

Why must I always be right... except when I'm wrong.
Q. "Lost in thought?" A. "Not lost. Exploring."
IMSO... In my superior opinion...
Sometimes I think the only thing between me and greatness is sanity.
"Of course I lack common sense. From my eyes, you lack innocence and innovation."
"Curiosity killed the cat, but I bet it wasn't thinking ahead."
"No, I don't know what I'm doing with this yet. Wanna help me out? You seem like you care."
Why should I have common sense? There's nothing common about me!
"Don't waste your'e time trying to make me agree with you, I can't even agree with myself, I have no opinions, only ideas"
question everything, even question why you question everything.
Why?
Why not?
Do I think too much, or do you think too little?
If you know you are right, I'm pretty damn sure you might be wrong.
Got a pen and paper? You'll need a map to see where my thoughts have gone.
I'm not arguing with you, I'm bonding.
I flee from stereotypes like others flock to fashion.
I know I can do anything, because I commit to nothing.
Suffers from multiple project disorder.
Psychoanalyzes self?
improvising is very enjoyable; following specifics is mundane


Thought I'd drag this up for all the new people to take a hack at it.

[Irish Wolf]

re. item #9

that's funny, I've been saying the following for years: "never put off 'til tomorrow that which can wait a week or even longer."

I've always held that you should never put off until tomorrow that which can be put off indefinitely! :)

[CBL]

10. Please stop the voices in my head, I'm trying to sleep.
~Really~ liked this one... at one stage in my life I was using alcohol etc. just to make those damn people living upstairs shuddup! :D


god daymn-it, you have to follow the directions EXACTLY on the back of the Macaroni and Cheese if you want it to come out right
I don't agree with this one... I either go "yeah that's about enough milk in there" or I decide I know how to adjust the ratios to make my Mac n Cheese come out better.



Even if you have no intention whatsoever of going, or if you will absolutely be there even though hell might freeze over... "maybe" is still the best answer.
Don't think this has been included but the word "maybe" really sums up my feelings towards committment.


does odd things with the pavement while walking
Do you think this is a type thing or some strange genetic anomaly? I know my feet play odd games with the pavement while walking. :whistle:

A couple of ideas...

"...go to the bank, remember certain website to check, wow must research that car I've never seen before, cool what band is this.... ...go to the bank, remember certain...."
I'm trying to convey my train of thought when daydreaming in the shower, or driving, and I get lots of ideas for new projects or ideas to investigate and I have to remember them until I get a chance to write them down.

Also, perhaps someone has a good summary of one's inability to reply to useless emails about "how everything is going" or how we reply when someone asks us "sup?" (what is up) or "hey, how ya going?".

---

[563 740]

# Why do today what you can put off until tommorow?

*Just because I'm not doing it now, doesn't mean I'm not going to.
*When will it be done? Sometime between now & never.

Re: train of thought - I can never decide if I'm too easily distracted or just too highly focused on one thing at at time.

[Combat]

The only thing we can be certain about is that we cannot be certain about anything :)

[simian20]

why are these people staring at me- background noises of concerned young mothers yelping- "pump pump squirt ooo r"

[indie]

Some grammar/puncuation tweaks, as well as a couple additions.



1. Talking on the phone is horrible (in general)
* I may not like talking on the phone to most people, but I've had very good phone conversations with people I like.
2. Variety is good
3. Problem-solving = fun!
4. I don't really care; I just look like I do.
* I don't really care and don't care enough to look like I do.
5. Approaching unfamiliar people = not fun!
6. Has little love for humanity
* If humanity was eaten by an alien mutant race, I would care.
7. Organization = waste of time.
* There are different types of organization. The word simply refers to what is simultaneous with what. Mental organization is what enables INTPs to be logically coherent and detect inconsistencies in what people say. You're probably talking about physically organizing your belongings.
8. Team work is terrible
9. Why do today what you can put off until tommorow?
* that's funny, I've been saying the following for years: "never put off 'til tomorrow that which can wait a week or even longer."
* "Yeah, I'll do it; one week from some Sunday"
10. Please stop the voices in my head, I'm trying to sleep.
11. Works best independently, and makes excellent workplace telecommuters
12. Absolute directness is essential, & appreciated
* Because what better friend could there be, than someone who is absolutely direct with you? Even IF it separates you from them, its better. Wheres the goodness in being lied to, for the sake of temporary peace?)
13. Physical Science and Math are fun
* you insane fucker, I veto this. Stereotyped bollocks.
14. It's nothing personal.
15. The first to think and the last to know.
16. repetition doesnt work out in a career.
17. I have something to prove to myself, but not to anyone else.
18. I am smiling = most likely I'm thinking something novel or out of tandem.
19. "So... what IS the meaning of life?"
20. "I wonder if..."
21. Intelligence weighs heavier then fair looks.
22. "For a person who feels, life is a tragedy; for a person who thinks, it is a comedy." - Voltaire
23. I can do it myself. Seriously
* variation - I can figure it out myself.
24. A bookshelf of the right size is a turn on.
* Does it count if I have enough books for a really big bookshelf, but haven't gotten around to getting one yet?
* It counts. It's all about the books
25. "You might think I'm listening to you......"
26. Idolizes Einstien
* "Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts."
"Things should be made as simple as possible, but not any simpler."
27. "Think too much!" - Impossible
* "Think too much? Impossible!"
28. Has anyone seen my keys?
* Nevermind, they were in my pants.
* Nevermind, they were in the fridge.
29. Attracted to like minds.
30. Whomever wonders why an INTP wishes to be a hermit only has to open his eyes and look on the world and his fellow man OR to "look at reality objectively... this often causes depression and the desire to live as a hermit"
31. serenity now!!!
* senility now!
32. *start whistling* "Just a spoon of Judging makes reality go down/Reality go dooowwwwn, reality go down / Just a spoon of Judging makes reality go down / In a most efficient way * end whistling *
33. "I'm sorry, I have a brain"
*"I'm sorry, that is not interesting."
* My standard response when I say something completely obvious and people accuse me of being insightful. I started saying this when i realized "It's not me who's smart, it's you who's dumb" sometimes offended people.

34. "It is better to debate a question without settling it than to settle a question without debating it."
* Yay for that which is elusively obvious.
* Yay for that which is intuitively obvious.
35. Serial hobbyist.
36. I don't care if you understand me, or even if you like me, but I do want you to know that I'm a great thinker.
37. No, I don't think we need to have a meeting about it.
38. INTP: Just do it.....some other time.
39. You see a messy house, I see only what pertains to what I'm doing right now.
*You see a mess, I see works in progress
40. Has trouble thinking inside the box.
41. Huh? Sorry, I was thinking about something else.
42. What time is it? ... Come to think of it what *year* is it?
43. Don't you DARE call me a liar! Unless, of course, I'm lying.
44. I don't want to know where you pulled that idea from, but I hope you don't eat with that hand.
45. I'd rather pick from twenty things that I need to do than only have to do one thing.
46. I've planned out the exact way I'm going to start talking to her so that it seems casual and unplanned.
* Not only that but I also planned what she would say in return and what I would say to that etc etc
47. Why must I always be right... except when I'm wrong.
48. Q. "Lost in thought?" A. "Not lost. Exploring."
49. IMSO... In my superior opinion...
50. Sometimes I think the only thing between me and greatness is sanity.
51. "Of course I lack common sense. From my eyes, you lack innocence and innovation."
Lack innocence? I don't get this one
52. "Curiosity killed the cat, but I bet it wasn't thinking ahead."
53. "No, I don't know what I'm doing with this yet. Wanna help me out? You seem like you care."
54. Why should I have common sense? There's nothing common about me!
55. "Don't waste your time trying to make me agree with you, I can't even agree with myself. I have no opinions, only ideas"
56. Question everything; question why you question everything.
57. Why?
58. Why not?
59. Do I think too much, or do you think too little?
60. If you know you are right, I'm pretty damn sure you might be wrong.
61. Got a pen and paper? You'll need a map to see where my thoughts have gone.
62. I'm not arguing with you; I'm bonding.
63. I flee from stereotypes like others flock to fashion.
64. I know I can do anything, because I commit to nothing.
65. Suffers from multiple project disorder.
66. Psychoanalyzes self?
67. Improvising is very enjoyable; following specifics is mundane.
68. Hmmm. . .

[rufio]

LMAO.

Also:
- if only I had the motivation, I could rule the world and do it better than anyone
- punctuality, schmunctuality

[placid_panic]

- I don't really care, I just look like I do.

i don't even look like i do

[563 740]

The only thing we can be certain about is that we cannot be certain about anything

Also: The only absolute is that there are no absolutes!

For fun: It's not that I'm always right, it's just that you're frequently wrong.

Mess? No, that's a new system I've developed. I call it floorganization.

[CBL]

Mess? No, that's a new system I've developed. I call it floorganization....remembering a past thread, don't forget bedganization :)

[C.J.Woolf]

If it wasn't for gravity and horizontal surfaces we'd be screwed.

[placid_panic]

Also, perhaps someone has a good summary of one's inability to reply to useless emails about "how everything is going" or how we reply when someone asks us "sup?" (what is up) or "hey, how ya going?".

---

in the past, people have gotten very offended at my tendency to ignore pointless small talk. so now i try to always give a response, though it gets tiring and makes me want to avoid people even more.

[Maniac]

in the past, people have gotten very offended at my tendency to ignore pointless small talk. so now i try to always give a response, though it gets tiring and makes me want to avoid people even more.

OMG I HATE SMALL TALK.

[Dunearhp]

If it wasn't for gravity and horizontal surfaces we'd be screwed.
Without gravity I could tape everything to the ceiling.

[rufio]

The only thing we can be certain about is that nothing is certain

Like....

I wonder if that burner is hot?
*touch*
Yep, it's hot.

2 minutes later...

Was it really hot?
*touch*
Yep. Still hot.

......

[mjolinar]

A life unexamined isn't worth living -socratese (who i idolize)

[skwayred]

I'm typically not typical.

[skwayred]

I never finish what I have started. Life included. I won't die.

[abathur]

I've never felt more alone than at a club full of people I didn't know.

Love me, hate me--up to you. You'll probably have to tell me if you want me to know.

[MacGuffin]

PLACE-HOLDER FOR CLASSIC STATUS

[Ponderous]

I was just thinking about this thread the other day.

[MacGuffin]

I was just thinking about this thread the other day.
Why?

[Ponderous]

Why?
A bookshelf reminded me of it.

24. A bookshelf of the right size is a turn on.




On another note, not for the list, but just a random comment. This:

49. IMSO... In my superior opinion...
reminds me of what a friend used to say:
"It seems to me, and it appears that, in my humble but accurate opinion I'd say..."

[s0978]

I am going to have to start using the IMSO acronym.

[spitfire]

* Small talk is for the small minded.
* Knowledge for its own sake.
* Sometimes my brain needs to STFU so I can think.
* Stubborn people are boring.
* Never form an opinion that can solidify.
* Nostalgia is only for those who used to care.
* Truth without bias is my God.
* As much as I'd like it to, my intellect does not trump my human biology - and this bothers me.
* Sometimes I wonder what a visiting alien with a vastly superior intellect would think of us - I think it would be disgusted or disappointed.
* I wish I was omnipotent, having all the knowledge of the universe.
* I don't think we humans are all that special.
* I'd like to see a nutrino and a singularity.
* I'd like to travel the universe but not with my body, with my mind.
* Pettiness is a constant annoyance.
* I don't believe in belief (: only facts.
* I contradict myself all the time.
* I'm an intellectual snob and occasional intellectual bully when it is necessary.
* Emotions scare me because I do not understand them as fully as I know I should.
* I have wished for a time machine since I was a small boy.
* I try to avoid sleep as long as possible.
* I am told I am quirky even though I do my best to fit in.
* People who believe in the supernatural seem closed minded to me.
* I am becoming more at ease with myself the older I get.
* I can over-obsess about a topic, buying dozens of books and immersing myself completely, at all costs.
* I worry about the limitations of my brain.
* Sometimes I don't know what answer I'm looking for, but I look anyway.
* I am perceived as cold and sometimes brutal even though I am just trying to be objective and honest.
* Death frightens me but eternal life frightens me more.
* I have never felt 'at one' with nature.
* I am already bored talking about myself.

[bugsydakid]

* 'I'd like to see a nutrino and a singularity'

Agree.

[1199]

*there are two possibelties 1. There is a solution 2. There is no solution so no need to worry.

[diabolical]

* Nothing is absolute. Except maybe that statement
* If I am 99% sure that a certain thing will occur, I will convince my non-INTP audience otherwise by explaining a list of ten reasons for the 1% discomfort.

[starjots]

- If I sound wishy-washy, it's because I see everything as a probability distribution function.

[euro191]

* I'd like to see a nutrino and a singularity.

It's called Neutrino.

[Wolfpine]

- are perceived to have much more conviction than they actually do... about everything. (they are thusly confused when others argue vehemently and emotionally against claims the INTP is openly unsure about the validity of themselves)

I guess this is similar to the "I have no thoughts, only ideas, how do you expect me to agree with you?" bullet, though I'm more concerned personally with the false impression others get that we DO have opinions when in reality we do not. It gets frustrating.


If I sound wishy-washy, it's because I see everything as a probability distribution function.

Amen to this.

Also,

-No, I don't really care to see it; I've already read about it.

-It's not a quote from anyone. I'm capable of independent thought, thank you.

-Cogito cogito ergo cogito sum (I think I think, therefore I think I am)

[composer]

Exercise helps me think better
I watch Star Trek on my iPod when I exercise, otherwise it would be too boring
Maybe my cellphone is more interesting than you
Food has a short half-life
Sorry if I look bored by this conversation, it's just that it bores me
No, I won't act like everybody else.
Individually people are OK, collectively they are a gibbering mass of stupidity
Why can't you see reality, it's right in front of you!
I'm not lazy, I'm thinking.
What?
There's a good reason I have ten computers.
Say something funny or go away.
Say something interesting or really go away
42
You ever wonder why trees are round?
And he said blah, blah blah ...
I hate getting my hair cut.
Actually 1491 was a really interesting year.
Get out of my face.
I'm an atheist-anti theist-agnostic pagan, let me explain what that means.
My couch is a critical part of my desk.
There is a good reason why everybody is wrong.
If I give a dinner party that just means I'll have to go to theirs.
Let me explain this using Perl.
It's embarrassing that you think that.
No I don't want seconds, I don't find bodily functions very interesting.
Never mind, that's just my genetic programming.
He's a linear thinker, I can't stand that.
If there is a heaven I don't want to go there, it sounds boring.
Why would you do that?
Life in a covariant manifold is very interesting.
I'd rather go for a walk.
Yes we ARE all machines. Some more than others.
Everything's negotiable
Sorry, I'm busy then.
Don't believe the bible, it's clearly out of date.
I'm not stealing, I just need it for my project.
Can you take off your clothes, because, well, you know ...
We already talked about this three and a half weeks ago.
This is cool, I'm reading Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy on my iPad!
Well it depends on how you look at it.
They obviously have real scientists as advisors on The Big Bang Theory.
Did the Giants win the World Series?
Vacations are boring unless they involve a hobby.
It's in the realm of possibilities that this timeline will include me going to that party
I'm playing a walking game.
Why should I go out?
I hate shopping, except online - that's research.
I was just laughing at something, nevermind.
Oh, is it Christmas?

[Wolfpine]

I'm an atheist-anti theist-agnostic pagan, let me explain what that means.


^ THIS!

[d100la]

I'd insult you, but you're not bright enough to notice.

This is more of a quote, but something which i can see an INTP saying XD

[loftcolour]

Get peeved when I see someone not packing a suitcase intelligently.

[scorpiomover]

Whoever wonders why a INTP wishes to be a hermit has only to open his eyes and look on the world and his fellow man OR "looks at reality objectively... this often causes depression and the desire to live as a hermit"Was talking about how I like being a hermit to my therapist today.

[nonperson]

Was talking about how I like being a hermit to my therapist today.

Now that would be good if your therapist had had to trek for three days into the boondocks to speak to you.

[rhinosaur]

Is file cabinet still around?

[synthesiafirefox]

Me to Myself: maybe..... Myself to Me: maybe not...
Thoughts goes here, Emotions goes here.. done and done!

[Crazy]

Has anyone seen my keys?
Nevermind, they were in my pants.
[/list][/size]
*Nevermind, they are still in the ignition, and the car is still running.

[MacGuffin]

*Nevermind, they are still in the ignition, and the car is still running.

Wow, blast from the past!

[Strider95]

WOW this really is applicable to me!! Except the parts which are not :grin:

EDIT :

I'd insult you, but you're not bright enough to notice.

This is more of a quote, but something which i can see an INTP saying XD

yeah.. I tend to think that VERY often.

[composer]

I spend the day with my fly unknowingly unzipped, at least once a week (seriously)

[fripping]

Death.
Led Zeppelin.
Weed.
Unixbeard.
Pubic beard.

[Stigmata]

I spend the day with my fly unknowingly unzipped, at least once a week (seriously)

Is this a small excerpt from a much larger story in which its fully explained how you ended up as a registered sex offender?

[joelrof]

"Curiosity killed the cat, but I bet it wasn't thinking ahead."
1. No wait, that was Shrodinger

[Skinart]

I spend the day with my fly unknowingly unzipped, at least once a week (seriously)


Is this a small excerpt from a much larger story in which its fully explained how you ended up as a registered sex offender?

I'm almost certain it has something to do with this (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?46032-Envy-me.&p=1548711&viewfull=1#post1548711).

[recoil]

the sum of
50 bullets will result in
decapitation and most likely
death

[recoil]

Death.
Led Zeppelin.
Weed.
Unixbeard.
Pubic beard.


O^i've got a pubic beard, wanna touch?

[fripping]

O^i've got a pubic beard, wanna touch?

only if you let me rub my pubic beard on your pubic beard.

[recoil]

only if you let me rub my pubic beard on your pubic beard.
sure, although
it has to be the beard
equivalent. of a glory
hole-,,---------------

[Spartanical]

no small talk please. just look out the window and i'll figure it out.

[Spartanical]

- are perceived to have much more conviction than they actually do... about everything. (they are thusly confused when others argue vehemently and emotionally against claims the INTP is openly unsure about the validity of themselves)

so true. narrow minds will make me argue a point very strongly that i only consider to be one of multiple possibilities. but the fact that the narrow minds won't otherwise consider it, makes me determined to convince them of its validity. then they say i'm being stubborn!?! arghhh...

[Spartanical]

people bug me. individuals i like... unless/until they're boring/stupid or simple/narrow minded

[doctorjuice]

-"It's not lost, I just don't know where it is right now."

-"I only forget that which is not important." (forgets wallet)

[Ele]

-understands the difference between fact and opinion; truth and bias.
-never fails to pick up on nuances

[thx1138]

A truthful statement does not have to be meaningful.

[Miranda]

An unexamined life is not worth living. However more recently I have found that An unlived life is not worth examining.

Playfully serious as well as seriously playful.

The only thing I believe in is doubt.

The interface between chaos and order.

I love Big Bang Theory.

The crystalline entity.

Too bored to think of anymore, may come back later...

[choppa]

"I know that's what it says in the dictionary, but what's your point?"

[bass_n_treble]

I can summarize an INTP in one picture:

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/brokenharp/INTPhomework.jpg

Oblivious, and always doing math homework.

[HoneyCyclical]

^What? At least two of those girls are brunettes with flat chests. According to the Sexiest Woman thread an INTP should have already honed in on them with laser-like precision.

(Or at least acknowledged their existence with a grimacing smile. Oh wait, he is.)