Detecting ESFP

[Al Cpwn]

I just did a search and nothing came up about this: How will you determine if a person is an ESFP, say during an interview. Lets say its not an interview but a modeling or acting audition.

[Sally]

Little to no self-consciousness accompanied by high awareness of the physical self in one actively seeking much attention.

[Al Cpwn]

Little to no self-consciousness accompanied by high awareness of the physical self in one actively seeking much attention.
how can one be aware of oneself without being self conscious?

[Sally]

how can one be aware of oneself without being self conscious?

Not accompanied by anxiety - more concerned with drawing attention; no such thing as bad attention.

[Snowflake]

It's not that they aren't self conscious, I think sally meant very gregarious and animated.

[Al Cpwn]

Not accompanied by anxiety - more concerned with drawing attention; no such thing as bad attention.
gotcha, any tests, questions, or *demands* we can make to verify that further?

[Sally]

Right. I'd that that they (and by they I mean the one I know relatively well) don't seem self-conscious compared to anyone else who isn't tweaking on some consciderably mind-altering substances. That's how I would detect, moreso than analyse.

[Sally]

gotcha, any tests, questions, or *demands* we can make to verify that further?

Ask them to sing show tunes (or other feat/performance they know well)!!!! Repeatedly, and far past the point when anyone else would cringe or at least blush or more likely get extremely pissed off. If there's absolutely no hesitation... I'd say you've got yourself an ESxP at least.

[Al Cpwn]

Ask them to sing show tunes (or other feat/performance they know well)!!!! Repeatedly, and far past the point when anyone else would cringe or at least blush or more likely get extremely pissed off. If there's absolutely no hesitation... I'd say you've got yourself an ESxP at least.
And how would you encourage them to go on with it. What is encouragement?

[Sally]

And how would you encourage them to go on with it. What is encouragement?

Say, "Sing another!!!" Or just don't stop paying attention.

[Al Cpwn]

Say, "Sing another!!!" Or just don't stop paying attention.
in that case, I have met at least one such person. Wanna hear about it?

[Sally]

Although, going back to the original post, if it's actually during an interview, most people would probably keep going. But the... enthusiasm; the pure love of garnering attention for attention's sake. It doesn't matter if the person is entertained/repulsed/fascinated, just that the focus is on the performer... That quality is what I associate with my friend as ESFP.

[Sally]

in that case, I have met at least one such person. Wanna hear about it?

Go ahead.

[Al Cpwn]

Go ahead.
I met this actress online who wanted me to do a photoshoot for her. And she invited me to her house as she did makeup and let me watch (which was surprising, being complete strangers in NYC!). Then I took pictures and she took me to various places in a park doing things, so many pics that I ran out of film (yes I don't shoot digital). She did some ballet moves, singing in the rain poses, and we talked, and she was like, why don't you come back and we'll do some more shoots. Somehow the word fetish came up and she became all overexcited and stuff, and said she had a catwoman costume she can use. It was funny because I never gave her the pics we took, and she never asked. It was one weird photoshoot.

edit: and oh yea, I asked her if she can do a monologue for me, and she did! Lady Macbeth, "....all the perfumes of arabia...."

[waxwing]

Ooh boy.

My ESFP ex would have been a bit shy about singing in public because he didn't think he was good at it. He would do it while he was high or only with me at times, but even then was insecure. I think the main thing with him was always, "I'll do it if it makes me look good." He didn't do things he wasn't good at it because he hated to lose that "smoothness," or that ability to impress.

First impression: charming, confident, eloquent, artistic, impressive, spontaneous, fun, multi-talented, sensitive

Impression after getting to know him well:
impulsive, manipulative, promiscuous, illogical, deceitful, dependent, babyish, and still occasionally charming

I'll give you an example. Right away, I learned that he worked in social work, he was "an artist," and then that he had an interest in literature. All things that were attractive to me. I later learned that his interests did not translate into anything significant, that he kept getting fired from his jobs, and that even his art about which he continually bragged was only slightly above average.

I wish terribly that I could present ESFPs in a more positive light, but I have lost my objectivity towards them.

[Sally]

I met this actress online who wanted me to do a photoshoot for her. And she invited me to her house as she did makeup and let me watch (which was surprising, being complete strangers in NYC!). Then I took pictures and she took me to various places in a park doing things, so many pics that I ran out of film (yes I don't shoot digital). She did some ballet moves, singing in the rain poses, and we talked, and she was like, why don't you come back and we'll do some more shoots. Somehow the word fetish came up and she became all overexcited and stuff, and said she had a catwoman costume she can use. It was funny because I never gave her the pics we took, and she never asked. It was one weird photoshoot.

edit: and oh yea, I asked her if she can do a monologue for me, and she did! Lady Macbeth, "....all the perfumes of arabia...."

Sounds about right. Are you going to seek her out again?

Also, this thread has got me wondering about the difference between ESTPs and ESFPs.

[Al Cpwn]

Sounds about right. Are you going to seek her out again?
No, I don't care. But if I work with someone who gets excited before a camera it is always fun. I knew a girl who wanted to do swimsuits, but it took a few sessions with me before she trusted me enough. I think she is an ESTP. She is an opera singer, but if I encourage her to sing, she'd always be like, oh it will get too loud. Always wanted to send me a CD of her recording but never got around doing it.

[Sally]

First impression: charming, confident, eloquent, artistic, impressive, spontaneous, multi-talented, sensitive

Impression after getting to know him well:
impulsive, manipulative, promiscuous, illogical, deceitful, dependent, babyish, and still occasionally charming


I'll agree with that, although... perhaps not deceitful. More like... prone to making others prey to their own fantasies. My friend also has a tendency to present and emphasize what makes her attractive to whomever she's with, and then you realize later that the depth to those interests is just not there.... But that's just how she is. I feel a bit bad for her, really, because she tends to piss off her closest friends who are Ns just by being less than what they want her to be - but she can't be everything for everyone, and she can't be other than what she is, which is appearing to be everything for everyone. But the facade itself - what I'm trying to say - that facade itse'f conveys the appearance of depth without actually deliberately trying to falsely convey that depth is there. It's like camouflage - it's natural to her - can you get angry at a moth for not being a leaf?

[waxwing]

I'll agree with that, although... perhaps not deceitful. More line... prone to making others prey to their own fantasies. My friend also has a tendency to present and emphasize what makes her attractive to whomever she's with, and then you realize later that the depth to those interests is just not there.... But that's just how she is. I feel a bit bad for her, really, because she tends to piss off her closest friends who are Ns just by being less than what they want her to be - but she can't be everything for everyone, and she can't be other than what she is, which is appearing to be everything for everyone. But the facade itself - what I'm trying to say - that facade itse'f conveys the appearance of depth without actually deliberately trying to falsely convey that depth is there. It's like camouflage - it's natural to her - can you get angry at a moth for not being a leaf?

Well said.

Can I get angry at a moth for not being a leaf? Of course not, but I can get angry at a moth for continually burning me (if I am a leaf) in his own flame.

Seriously, though, you raise a good question. I'll have to think some more on whether or not that apparent deceit is intentional. I'm guessing you're right, that it's not, and that it only seems that way because of the level of attraction and excitement that the ESFP can initially draw out (which then led to letdown and anger in my case). Is he an okay artist? Sure. Is he okay at literature? Guess so. Was he terrible at his social work job? No. I guess I just expect too much from people who tell me their interests are the same as mine. I expect to be challenged or something. I must say he challenged me in bed though.

[Sally]

I must say he challenged me in bed though.

Yes if there's one area of expertise where I would expect my ESFP friend to outshine everyone else... excepting maybe my other friend, INTx, but for her it's only with the person she's committed to...

ESFP - regularly having sex with relative strangers and making it hella fun.

^ Not to imply that yours was a relative stranger, but more that sex is their thing. They enjoy it. They're good at it. For its own sake and then some.

[Jasz]

i just found out that my brother tested esfp
i always thought he was an infp but when reading up, it makes sense

regarding the above discussion, i do not find him intentful on anything and rather to live his life as it presents itself to him/ happens to him

[Edmond Zedo]

I just did a search and nothing came up about this: How will you determine if a person is an ESFP, say during an interview. Lets say its not an interview but a modeling or acting audition.
First I'd just look at them, and probably nail it down. Then I'd ask them several carefully worded KTS-style questions.

[Jasz]

First I'd just look at them, and probably nail it down. Then I'd ask them several carefully worded KTS-style questions.

you're so full of it, love it

[Edmond Zedo]

you're so full of it, love it
If you'd ever made sense before, I might feel bad about your disapproval. You don't know what you're talking about. Even more so than most who would disagree.

[Jasz]

If you'd ever made sense before, I might feel bad about your disapproval. You don't know what you're talking about. Even more so than most who would disagree.

by the way, how is your clone site doing?