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heeroyuy
16 Oct 2004, 02:49 AM
This is kind of more or less a question; if anyone else finds themselves feeling like this. I assume that it could be pretty common, but just wanted feedback heh.

More and more I find myself intolerant of society as a whole. I am 16, and go to a highschool, so naturally I see alot of bullshit in between people with relationships etc. When I see all of this, the immature people laughing at fart jokes or making fun of what I consider truth it bothers me.

I've always not really cared much for those around me in general, but now it's something more. It's almost as though something has sparked animosity within me towards them, as though they have violated some part of me that I didn't think they should.

Most of all I hate the way people look at me. It doesn't really bother me that most people look at me this way; but specific people I thought would understand how I feel and am look at me that way; and it burns me. So I cut them off.


These feelings aren't experienced every day; it's an either on or off thing. Often it's triggered by being around alot of people at once. I don't mind being alone at all; that's perfectly fine with me. The thing that bothers me most I think is that everything that's going on is interfering with how I work and messing with me inside. It just bugs the hell out of me.

I hate people heh. I'm done, thank you. This rant has been sponsered by the letters A, T, Q, and the number 13.

Hypnos
16 Oct 2004, 08:02 AM
I think it happens whenever you disagree with someone on a subjective value (e.g, the beauty of truth), and is kind of oppressive when you disagree with everyone. I certainly recall the complex of this and teenage aggression.

Then you realize that your very adherance to your principles is at stake as you encounter failures and shifting priorities (e.g., family), and thereby slide from aggression to anxiety to wistfulness.

Avengardh
16 Oct 2004, 09:31 AM
It still happens to me, and I am in College now.

It's just a matter of getting used to it and trying to make yourself understand, or "stable", if that is what you want in the end, of course.

Feeling like that has led me to do lots of things; much of which I am not inclined to talk about.

~*Aven*~

Hypnos
16 Oct 2004, 09:48 AM
It still happens to me, and I am in College now.
In college, I became an intellectual predator ;)


Feeling like that has led me to do lots of things; much of which I am not inclined to talk about.
That's called a "tease."

Avengardh
16 Oct 2004, 10:04 AM
It still happens to me, and I am in College now.
In college, I became an intellectual predator ;)


Feeling like that has led me to do lots of things; much of which I am not inclined to talk about.
That's called a "tease."

Well, thanks for letting me know what it was called ^-^

Going back to what Heero said (damn, that's such a cool username, lol, yeah, I am still a GW-freak -.-') I particularly have a problem with the way people look at me, do you think you could elaborate on that a bit? Because this also happened to me in HS, I am just curious to know your take on it, Yuy ^_^

~*Aven*~

Arcael
16 Oct 2004, 10:16 AM
People were drawn to me more in college, because they needed to get a studygroup going :D. I'm sure they talked to me first because I looked easily approachable.

Hypnos
16 Oct 2004, 10:16 AM
Going back to what Heero said (damn, that's such a cool username, lol, yeah, I am still a GW-freak -.-') I particularly have a problem with the way people look at me, do you think you could elaborate on that a bit? Because this also happened to me in HS, I am just curious to know your take on it, Yuy ^_^
In case you're talking to me, I just stopped caring, then worked on my charm skills to get what I want.

(Apparently, my charm works great, I'm just too dense to notice until after the fact -- I've missed out on a lot of sex).

Avengardh
16 Oct 2004, 10:53 AM
Going back to what Heero said (damn, that's such a cool username, lol, yeah, I am still a GW-freak -.-') I particularly have a problem with the way people look at me, do you think you could elaborate on that a bit? Because this also happened to me in HS, I am just curious to know your take on it, Yuy ^_^
In case you're talking to me, I just stopped caring, then worked on my charm skills to get what I want.

(Apparently, my charm works great, I'm just too dense to notice until after the fact -- I've missed out on a lot of sex).

Although your input is appreciated, I was talking to Yuy (heeroyuy), but to go more into it; yeah, I stopped caring for a while too, but there are times where it's just freaking annoying...charm...I guess I do use it sometimes, but it can cause after effects, so if I do it, it's without noticing.

~*Aven*~

heeroyuy
16 Oct 2004, 12:35 PM
Going back to what Heero said (damn, that's such a cool username, lol, yeah, I am still a GW-freak -.-') I particularly have a problem with the way people look at me, do you think you could elaborate on that a bit? Because this also happened to me in HS, I am just curious to know your take on it, Yuy ^_^

It's just the look in peoples eyes, of almost pity, at what i know, and how I know it. Like if something breaks, and I say "all you need is an RJ-11 end and a crimper and we'll fix 'er right up" invariably someone will look at me with eyes like "you shouldn't know that. I feel sorry that you know that." It bothers me because I don't see that they have ANY right to judge me, and everyone I know except for maybe two people have looked at me like this, even my close friends. As though I have no right to know what i know, and that somehow it's wrong that I do.

The most annoying part of this is that people I thought would understand, teacher's I've known for many years, do the same thing to me. As do my parents, and everyone else. So I've learned never to speak at all, even if I do know things. I never really spoke alot, but now I don't really speak at all. It's amusing, becuase now people are afraid of me, like they think I'm some kind of loose cannon ready to go off, when in reality I _HATE_ hurting people, even those I don't like :huh:

Boozer
16 Oct 2004, 12:53 PM
Going back to what Heero said (damn, that's such a cool username, lol, yeah, I am still a GW-freak -.-') I particularly have a problem with the way people look at me, do you think you could elaborate on that a bit? Because this also happened to me in HS, I am just curious to know your take on it, Yuy ^_^

It's just the look in peoples eyes, of almost pity, at what i know, and how I know it. Like if something breaks, and I say "all you need is an RJ-11 end and a crimper and we'll fix 'er right up" invariably someone will look at me with eyes like "you shouldn't know that. I feel sorry that you know that." It bothers me because I don't see that they have ANY right to judge me, and everyone I know except for maybe two people have looked at me like this, even my close friends. As though I have no right to know what i know, and that somehow it's wrong that I do.

The most annoying part of this is that people I thought would understand, teacher's I've known for many years, do the same thing to me. As do my parents, and everyone else. So I've learned never to speak at all, even if I do know things. I never really spoke alot, but now I don't really speak at all. It's amusing, becuase now people are afraid of me, like they think I'm some kind of loose cannon ready to go off, when in reality I _HATE_ hurting people, even those I don't like :huh:

It sounds pretty bad. I would say that those looks will fade as you get older and people accept your intelligence. Also overwhelming people with technical details will get you looks. You might try using more laymans terms.

file cabinet
16 Oct 2004, 01:25 PM
you do not know what other people thinking. I would think those people are surprised, jealous, or something else. I think you are misjudging what you 'read' in those peoples eyes and overanalyzing what you think you read.

Sam172
16 Oct 2004, 02:06 PM
Going back to what Heero said (damn, that's such a cool username, lol, yeah, I am still a GW-freak -.-') I particularly have a problem with the way people look at me, do you think you could elaborate on that a bit? Because this also happened to me in HS, I am just curious to know your take on it, Yuy ^_^

It's just the look in peoples eyes, of almost pity, at what i know, and how I know it. Like if something breaks, and I say "all you need is an RJ-11 end and a crimper and we'll fix 'er right up" invariably someone will look at me with eyes like "you shouldn't know that. I feel sorry that you know that." It bothers me because I don't see that they have ANY right to judge me, and everyone I know except for maybe two people have looked at me like this, even my close friends. As though I have no right to know what i know, and that somehow it's wrong that I do.

The most annoying part of this is that people I thought would understand, teacher's I've known for many years, do the same thing to me. As do my parents, and everyone else. So I've learned never to speak at all, even if I do know things. I never really spoke alot, but now I don't really speak at all. It's amusing, becuase now people are afraid of me, like they think I'm some kind of loose cannon ready to go off, when in reality I _HATE_ hurting people, even those I don't like :huh:

I think you need a huggle :(

I sort of get this in a way too, but it's usually when I go off on a tangent about something like global warming, badgers or what products all those Maersk Sealand containers have in them...

Arioch
16 Oct 2004, 03:40 PM
Congratulations. Your human.

I wonder if developing some healthy disdain and knowing that it is your right as a human being to gain knowledge will help.

purple13
16 Oct 2004, 04:09 PM
This is different, but I found that whenever I react emotionally in a positive way (which is not very often), I get a shocked/confused look of surprise or disbelief. Like I complimented someone at work one time in a group setting, saying "Nice job, Ted!!" I was sincere, but he turned around and shot me one of those looks. It made me feel like I said something wrong, and ended up feeling like I had to explain what I meant by it, which I did. I think he's an INFJ. Do they have problems with taking compliments? Or maybe he didn't expect that kind of reaction out of me.

Birdsnest
16 Oct 2004, 04:09 PM
Could you be an empath or a HSP, and be picking up on what their real feelings are of you? If you think so, just realize that its "their" feelings you are feeling and not necessarily yours. Here is a test to see if you could be an HSP: www.hsperson.com & just click on Self Test.

For Empaths and HSP's, weird but true: Wear a silk shirt when you have to be around a lot of people to see if your ability to socialize improves. Silk acts as a cocoon and protects empaths from bombardment of energy from others.

Social Anxiety Test:
http://www.effectiveness-plus.com/Questionnaire.htm

More sources:
http://www.highlysensitivepeople.com/Links.html

Empath 101:
http://www.geocities.com/christabelle67/TheEmpathReport101PtI.html

http://www.geocities.com/christabelle67/TheUniversalEmpathIndex1.html

cloakable
16 Oct 2004, 04:11 PM
Congratulations. Your human.
Even though some SJ's will still wonder. :D . Fuck them.


I wonder if developing some healthy disdain and knowing that it is your right as a human being to gain knowledge will help.
Probably. I developed (overdeveloped?) a probably healthy amount of disdain back in my teenage years. Probably needed, in a group as introverted and as intelectual as INTP's are.

All in all, good advice.

purple13
16 Oct 2004, 04:24 PM
oops, I meant I think he's an INTJ, not INFJ.

Claverhouse
16 Oct 2004, 08:32 PM
Nobody ever said there was anything wrong with hating people.



Claverhouse :ph34r:

BritainOphira
16 Oct 2004, 08:45 PM
So I've learned never to speak at all, even if I do know things. I never really spoke alot, but now I don't really speak at all. It's amusing, becuase now people are afraid of me, like they think I'm some kind of loose cannon ready to go off, when in reality I _HATE_ hurting people, even those I don't like :huh:

Not talking, as easy a solution as it may seem, is hardly wise. Those people who think you are a loose cannon will be proven right. I'm not saying that you should try to be extraverted or try to be, or do, anything you don't want to do, but take it from someone with all too much experience in this field: if you think someone might be afraid of you, there is probably a very good reason.

Next time you think someone looks at you in any way you don't like, take a minute and breathe. When offering help, make sure not to talk down to people, even if only unintentionally. (It's really hard to catch yourself doing this until someone points it out as you are doing it or right after.)

Cutting people off completely is also never a good solution. (More of the whole "been there, done that" routine.) If you are upset with someone and irrational, sure, go off on your own and take time to calm down, but if you begin cutting out everyone that you think doesn't quite get you or thinks you are a show off or whatever, you will soon find yourself completely alone.

Of course if I could ever manage to take my own good advice I probably wouldn't be taking the time to type this.