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INTrPosr
16 Oct 2004, 05:25 PM
Since some of us are feeling a bit sensitive, I am curious as to whether some other types have infiltrated the group, disguised as INTPs.

file cabinet
16 Oct 2004, 05:40 PM
I've barely looked into the intp stuff I printed off the essay but never got around to reading it.. I think someone told me my wing was probably a 4.. so the enneagram aspect would be 5w4(I know I'm a 5, parents were into the enneagram..).. I don't know "officially" whether I'm an INTP.. I just presume I am... or at least.. I will.. for the moment.. or until I get around to reading into it more..

INTrPosr
16 Oct 2004, 06:19 PM
You folks are making me feel more comforatble that I am on the right track with who I am :)

Last Song
16 Oct 2004, 07:07 PM
INTP 5w4.

Arcael
16 Oct 2004, 07:50 PM
INTP 5w6

cant trust most people :D

Avengardh
16 Oct 2004, 07:57 PM
INTP, professionally tested a while back and I ended up being an INTJ, but I really think INTP suits me better. I do have a well-developed F though and could probably be mistaken for an E.

~*Aven*~

CosmicDust
16 Oct 2004, 07:59 PM
INTP, not totally decided between 5w6 and 6w5 but going with 6w5 for now because I seem too in touch with my (negative) emotions, especially anxiety and self-defeat, too concerned with/dependent on external opinions, and too loose with information about myself to remain convinced I'm a 5w6 with sexual variant last. (I'm quite sure on the sx-last thing.)

booyalab
16 Oct 2004, 08:16 PM
INTP 5w4

Arioch
16 Oct 2004, 08:30 PM
Does anybody know a good Enneagram test with the wings and wether your a social 5 or sexual etc?

CosmicDust
16 Oct 2004, 08:50 PM
http://www.eclecticenergies.com/enneagram/test-2.php

This one attempts to guess all of them, but like all tests, it has its limitations.

On this, I've historically tested as 5w6, social in the later versions and self-pres in earlier versions, with 5, 6, and 9 being my top 3 scores last time I took it. But I was identifying as a 5 and considering 6 during most of that time (rather than the other way around as it is now), which might have affected my scores.

Arcael
16 Oct 2004, 09:01 PM
Thats odd, I tried out that test and I scored 5w4 instead of 5w6.

CosmicDust
16 Oct 2004, 09:30 PM
Some people don't test out as their type or even get their type as a wing or high score. It varies. It's only a test.

Arioch
16 Oct 2004, 09:36 PM
http://www.eclecticenergies.com/enneagram/test-2.php

This one attempts to guess all of them, but like all tests, it has its limitations.

On this, I've historically tested as 5w6, social in the later versions and self-pres in earlier versions, with 5, 6, and 9 being my top 3 scores last time I took it. But I was identifying as a 5 and considering 6 during most of that time (rather than the other way around as it is now), which might have affected my scores.

Bah. I keep on getting different results with different Enneagram tests.

Now I'm a 5 with balanced wings and a Sexual instinct. Before I was a 5w4 with Social instinct.

It doesn't help that the descriptions are often a bit too much like horoscopes. Silly Enneagram.

Still maybe if I just read one of the books I'd like it. Doubt it thou.

coffeezombie
16 Oct 2004, 09:39 PM
5w4 INTP Self-preservation variant

Vagabond
16 Oct 2004, 10:46 PM
Check my signature.

Mariel
16 Oct 2004, 11:45 PM
ENFP 3w4 social variant

But the test above gave me the result of 7w8 social variant.

SensEye
17 Oct 2004, 05:07 AM
I scored a 5w6 on this test. On others I have socred 9w8 which doesn't seem right. Like Arioch, I can't get any consistency with these enneagram tests.

Melody
17 Oct 2004, 07:33 AM
i have said this before

but

there is a subset of intp called 'god'

i compose the full membership of this subset


my enneagram is a set of two random integers

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/tocca/ri1wri2.png

that is

my personality changes at an arbitrary random 'infinite bandwidth' frequency a la white noise

adamaw11
18 Oct 2004, 12:36 PM
Introverted intuitive with an introverted thinking auxiliary and an extraverted feeling auxiliary. You ("you") do the translation.

Here's your translation - an INFJ with a well developed tertiary Ti.

jittus rye
18 Oct 2004, 12:55 PM
INTP 8w9 unconcious is 9w8

I also have almost equally high 5 and 1 scores

adamaw11
18 Oct 2004, 01:00 PM
How many members are on the board now? and does anyone have an estimate of how many active posters there are?

I'm just wondering about how much of a sample this poll can reel in.


5w6 I've tested as.

Last Song
18 Oct 2004, 01:01 PM
Ok I just got 5 with balanced wings ... self-preserved variant. Did that http://www.eclecticenergies.com/enneagram/test-2.php test. Anywho ... INTP and 5w?

(Is there such a thing as balanced wings or does that just mean my answers did not add up to more results for one wing than the other?!)

CosmicDust
18 Oct 2004, 01:23 PM
Depends on who you ask, but in the context of a test result it means that the difference between your wing scores is statistically insignificant.

file cabinet
18 Oct 2004, 01:26 PM
How many members are on the board now? and does anyone have an estimate of how many active posters there are?

I'm just wondering about how much of a sample this poll can reel in.


5w6 I've tested as.

there are 256 registered members. A number that is steadily increasing (http://www.intpcentral.com/index.php?mode=stats).

The poll with the most votes has 80 votes:
http://www.intpcentral.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=68

I could probably deduce the number of active posters.. but it would depend on the algorithm.. as in, would I want to query for people who've posted everyday since they've registered? or people who have an average number of posts higher then the number of days they've been registered.. so...... yeah.. I can write a script if you can tell me how you want to determine whether a user is an active poster and then I would come back to you with a number.

cloakable
18 Oct 2004, 01:27 PM
Either look in my sid, or right here:
INTP 5w6

adamaw11
18 Oct 2004, 02:23 PM
How many members are on the board now? and does anyone have an estimate of how many active posters there are?

I'm just wondering about how much of a sample this poll can reel in.


5w6 I've tested as.

there are 256 registered members. A number that is steadily increasing (http://www.intpcentral.com/index.php?mode=stats).

The poll with the most votes has 80 votes:
http://www.intpcentral.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=68
Make that 81 votes ;)



I could probably deduce the number of active posters.. but it would depend on the algorithm.. as in, would I want to query for people who've posted everyday since they've registered? or people who have an average number of posts higher then the number of days they've been registered.. so...... yeah.. I can write a script if you can tell me how you want to determine whether a user is an active poster and then I would come back to you with a number.

I suppose I was thinking of active as meaning currently active, rather than has stopped posting since they joined. Perhaps a query something like "# of users that have posted at least once in the last week? 2 weeks? month?" Is there somewhere we can get this information ouselves that I may have missed? I suppose you could even include anyone who has logged in, without posting, in the last week. So that people lurking could be still considered as part of the group, but only reading without posting, but may also contribute to a poll.


oh, just realised, the user stats area, so is that showing the number of new users in each month?

file cabinet
18 Oct 2004, 02:30 PM
117 different users have been active within the last week.
131 different users have been active within the last two week.
156 different users have been active within the last month.

I should probably include that information on the stats page.. mmm.. but for now the information will be located here.



oh, just realised, the user stats area, so is that showing the number of new users in each month?
Correct.

INTrPosr
18 Oct 2004, 07:27 PM
I typed as 5w6, but after all of the material that I have read, I think that I am 5w4, or maybe 3w4.

This is an interesting tidbit at the end of the 5 Type description:

Fives, especially with the Four wing, sometimes mistype themselves as Fours. Such Fives recognize that they have strong emotions and don't identify with the often extremely cerebral portrait of type Five. But, Fives, unlike Fours, always retain some degree of discomfort when it comes to the expression of their emotional states. However much facility they may gain with it, the language of emotion is not their native tongue.

That sounds a lot like me. I wished there was some material geared exclusively toward types and the wings.

Last Song
19 Oct 2004, 02:28 AM
I typed as 5w6, but after all of the material that I have read, I think that I am 5w4, or maybe 3w4.

This is an interesting tidbit at the end of the 5 Type description:

Fives, especially with the Four wing, sometimes mistype themselves as Fours. Such Fives recognize that they have strong emotions and don't identify with the often extremely cerebral portrait of type Five. But, Fives, unlike Fours, always retain some degree of discomfort when it comes to the expression of their emotional states. However much facility they may gain with it, the language of emotion is not their native tongue.

That sounds a lot like me. I wished there was some material geared exclusively toward types and the wings.

I did post a link in a thread I made in the Psych Links section ... could check that out. ;P

synchronous
19 Oct 2004, 07:52 AM
I typed as 5w6, but after all of the material that I have read, I think that I am 5w4, or maybe 3w4.

This is an interesting tidbit at the end of the 5 Type description:

Fives, especially with the Four wing, sometimes mistype themselves as Fours. Such Fives recognize that they have strong emotions and don't identify with the often extremely cerebral portrait of type Five. But, Fives, unlike Fours, always retain some degree of discomfort when it comes to the expression of their emotional states. However much facility they may gain with it, the language of emotion is not their native tongue.

That sounds a lot like me. I wished there was some material geared exclusively toward types and the wings.

I did post a link in a thread I made in the Psych Links section ... could check that out. ;P

Last Song: The link that you provide leads to some very informative material. It is a good source for understanding differences between Etypes, and how the variant influences type.

Functianalyst: The only detailed/comprehensive descriptions of sub-types I've seen so far are found in Riso and Hudsons' book, 'Personality Types'. Riso and Hudson dedicate about 2 1/2 pages to the 5W4 description. I've not yet found anything on the internet that provides the amount of detail that is found in the book. Mind you, there may be other books available that provide similar detail though.

Given what I've read so far in posts on this forum, there are alot of 5w4 members. Issues like hypersensitivity, depression, independence/social isolation etc. are touched upon in the sub-type description. I think it's a good read for anyone looking for validation.

nobarcode
19 Oct 2004, 02:25 PM
INTJ 5w4 sexual variant

The archives has a lot of test results as well.

CosmicDust
19 Oct 2004, 02:37 PM
Given what I've read so far in posts on this forum, there are alot of 5w4 members. Issues like hypersensitivity, depression, independence/social isolation etc. are touched upon in the sub-type description. I think it's a good read for anyone looking for validation.
Yes, and this combined with the Intuitive-ness of the 5 and 4 descriptions led me to think that I was a 5w4 at first. But I now think all of this can be explained in my case via 6w5.

It's thought that 5w4's are rare, but that INTP's are more likely to be 5's than any other Enneagram type. There do seem to be a lot of 5w4's on the internet even if many who self-identify as 5w4's are not the real thing. The only 5w4 I ever met in real life and knew or strongly suspected to be such was one I knew from the internet. Go figure.

Birdsnest
19 Oct 2004, 03:25 PM
There isn't an option for 5 with balanced wings, but that is me. I test 5w6 now, but have a lot of wing 4 too. I'm really both equally. Have a lot of 5, 6 and 7. The only thing I would add is that it IS important for me to experience things as well as know things, so I think thats the 7 talking.

I've never tested as anything but INTP, however my T score is about 30 so I weigh in some F into things, and my P score was in my 20's so I have enough J to help me stay a little organized, but definitely still INTP all the way.

I waver on the sub types, I think I can sometimes be SP, and sometimes SX, but RARELY am SO. I mean...rarely, once a year perhaps?

But I often seek one on one relationships as per the SX, however, I have reverted to an SP now because it serves me better right now.

spirilis
19 Oct 2004, 04:07 PM
hmm, just took the enneagram, 5w6. In college I tested as a 9, but I don't recall the wing number.

synchronous
19 Oct 2004, 06:19 PM
Given what I've read so far in posts on this forum, there are alot of 5w4 members. Issues like hypersensitivity, depression, independence/social isolation etc. are touched upon in the sub-type description. I think it's a good read for anyone looking for validation.
Yes, and this combined with the Intuitive-ness of the 5 and 4 descriptions led me to think that I was a 5w4 at first. But I now think all of this can be explained in my case via 6w5.

It's thought that 5w4's are rare, but that INTP's are more likely to be 5's than any other Enneagram type. There do seem to be a lot of 5w4's on the internet even if many who self-identify as 5w4's are not the real thing. The only 5w4 I ever met in real life and knew or strongly suspected to be such was one I knew from the internet. Go figure.

I did not realize 5w4's were rare, but, I'm not surprised to find them here concentrated in fair numbers on this forum talking about MBTI, or making the internet their 'lifeline'. As well, 5's are attracted to psychological systems. I've read years ago that 5's can be found 'en masse' attending Enneagram seminars.

As for self-identification, I would imagine there are some who believe they are true 5w4s but aren't really. Simply testing as one doesn't make you one. Like MBTI tests, the results may be off. You need to follow up with some research to confirm you are truly a 5w4s. But then again, there 5's here that are true 5w4s but at different levels of integration, add variant stacking, ethnic/socioeconomic background, and different levels of 'intelligence' etc, etc. I would hesitate to make a judgement call about other members' Etype based on a few posts.

INTrPosr
19 Oct 2004, 06:42 PM
I'm just wondering about how much of a sample this poll can reel in.

That's a valid point Adamaw11. Since many come to these type forums for validation of their type and seeking commonality, the process would be difficult without viable reference points.

I began this poll/thread because of the "Nobody here likes me" thread. If INTPs here are perceiving that they have little in common with some members, it would be necessary to determine whether the conflicting member is INTP, or another type. Maybe we should all put our MBTI ande enneagram type in our signature space. I know some naysayers/noncomformist would argue that point. At least it gives you an indication that the point of view from the other member does not equate to rejection.

adamaw11
20 Oct 2004, 02:06 PM
Do you think it would be worth having an option in the poll for those who feel they are somehow 'in between' intp and intj? Apparently there are a few people on here describing themselves as "an intp with j tendencies"

I suppose they could just fit into the "NT but unsure" option

And yeah, thats a pretty fair suggestion for everyone to put their enneagram and type in their sig, actually quite a few people do that I've noticed. (I know, I know, I havn't done it myself yet)


It does seem a bit harsh to be labelling people with so much strictness, but I guess I support the use of this poll because of the unpleasantness in my head when considering the possibility that an INTP forum could end up with the majority being people of some other type, mistakenly thinking they are INTPs. But then, thats probably unlikely.

MacGuffin
20 Oct 2004, 09:09 PM
I was going to make a thread and poll that dealt specifically with border-types, but the lack of poll-previewing made me postpone it while waiting for getting that question verified, and I currently lack the interest to do it again. I don't think that this poll should be expanded with such options. It'd be cleaner and thus more informative to take such discussion in a specific thread.

I thought of doing a similar poll. Maybe I'll go ahead and do it.

MacGuffin
20 Oct 2004, 09:24 PM
I did it: http://www.intpcentral.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1014&highlight=

ohnoaninfp
21 Oct 2004, 06:52 PM
I am an INFP 4w5.

s
21 Oct 2004, 09:53 PM
INTP
Enneagram: 5, wing leanings are "balanced"
Enneagram Variant: Self-preservation instinct

Dr. Caligari
25 Oct 2004, 03:37 AM
I'm a 5w6, though sometimes I get 8w7. Unconsciously I'm a "7w6-mean", but I don't quite understand what that's supposed to signify.

Nindy
25 Oct 2004, 04:54 PM
INTP - 5w6 - sp

INTrPosr
26 Oct 2004, 11:11 AM
This one attempts to guess all of them, but like all tests, it has its limitations.

Type 9 SX
Type 5 SP
Type 7 SP
Type 1 SX
Type 4 SP
Type 6 SX
Type 8 SP
Type 2 SP
Type 3 SX

It said that I was more than likely a 9w1 SX, followed closely by 5SP. I see that: Observers and Mediators can be considered look-alike types because both types can be retracted and introverted, thoughtful, unobtrusive, and even seem to be invisible. Both can withdraw or pull back from being overly influenced by their surroundings. They differ in that Observers habitually detach from others and assert their boundaries in self-protection, whereas Mediators are least able to detach from others, habitually blend with others, and go along with others to keep life harmonious and comfortable. From that standpoint, I would be 5.

nobarcode
26 Oct 2004, 06:48 PM
You are most likely a type 5 (the Investigator) with 4 wing

Self-preservation variant




Type 5 SP
Type 4 SP
Type 8 SP
Type 1 SX
Type 6 SP
Type 3 SX
Type 9 SX
Type 7 SO
Type 2 SP

That's the first time I've ever gotten SP. Usually, it goes 5 (by a large margin),4,6,1...SX (by a large margin) on other tests.

keetah
5 Dec 2004, 02:50 AM
i am a 4w5 sx/so/sp

Vylence
5 Dec 2004, 06:43 AM
INTP, 9w1

indie
5 Dec 2004, 02:47 PM
For some reason, I just don't like the enneagram tests. But for the record, I usually score as a 5w4.

Nindy
6 Dec 2004, 04:08 AM
I've had an interesting discussion at the forum of the enneagram-institute in which the different types were clarified and my actual type revealed itself.
Just as for why my vote changed...

Edmond Zedo
6 Dec 2004, 04:10 AM
You are most likely a type 5 (the Investigator) with 4 wing

Sexual variant

Type 5 SX
Type 1 SX
Type 8 SP
Type 3 SP
Type 9 SP
Type 7 SP
Type 4 SP
Type 6 SP
Type 2 SX

I don't know what this means yet, but I surely will. I'm INTP as well, of course.

knome
6 Dec 2004, 05:17 AM
I went with 'another point and variant', as technically (or as technically as the test is) I lean neither way and picking w4 or w6 would be counter to the polls accuracy. Scored a 5 with balanced 4 and 6. I'll use "5w(4=6)". :)

cloakable
5 Jan 2005, 12:46 PM
INTP 5w6. Not sure about the enneagram, as I haven't studied it much.

purple13
6 Jan 2005, 01:13 AM
INxP, haven't done the enneagram.

booyalab
6 Jan 2005, 01:20 AM
I don't know if I like being so normal........INTP 5w4

Wolfchylde
6 Jan 2005, 02:02 AM
INTP 5w4. Not sure I like the normal thing eiter but its normal in an abnormal group;)

Edmond Zedo
6 Jan 2005, 04:51 AM
INxP
No such aminal!

purple13
6 Jan 2005, 02:07 PM
Okay, I'm probably an emotionally stunted INTP. Wow, that could be dangerous, now that I think about it.

matthew0028
9 Jan 2005, 10:18 AM
Well, according to http://www.eclecticenergies.com/enneagram/test-2.php, I'm a 5w6 with a self preservation instinct. On a test I took earlier at a different site, I had a similar result. Though both times, 9 was very high up on the list, and higher than either of my potential wings. *shrug*

Type 5 SP
Type 9 SX
Type 6 SP
Type 4 SO
Type 1 SP
Type 7 SP
Type 2 SP
Type 8 SP
Type 3 SP

daughterofeve
10 Jan 2005, 05:18 AM
wow.. I'm not the norm! 8O

I scored as 9w5
..a year ago I took the similarminds one and got 9w8, but recently, even after taking the similarminds one 3 times, i still come out as a 5!

Type 9 SO
Type 5 SO
Type 6 SO
Type 4 SO
Type 1 SO
Type 7 SO
Type 2 SO
Type 3 SP
Type 8 SO

..weird that 8 is dead last now, eh?

oh yeah, i thought this was interesting:
Intellectual Nines, especially males, frequently mistype as Fives, but Fives are intellectually contentious whereas Nines are conciliatory and conflict avoidant.
I guess I've always acted a little more masculine for some reason.. I took the Hutta gender test for LJ.. "My journal says I'm 52% masculine."

teknika
11 Jan 2005, 05:28 AM
INTP 5w6 sp

joft
11 Jan 2005, 05:35 AM
sig says it but: intp 5w9 sp/sx/so

MasterMerk
11 Jan 2005, 08:35 AM
INFJ 4w5 so

matthew0028
11 Jan 2005, 11:14 AM
sig says it but: intp 5w9 sp/sx/so

I know hardly anything about the XwX system, but doesn't the wing have to be an adjacent number?

Garyincinci
20 Jan 2005, 05:57 PM
INTP 5w4

lexiphanic
21 Jan 2005, 07:51 AM
INTP 7w3 sp/sx

t
21 Jan 2005, 07:02 PM
heh... i test INTP and 9w1 w/ a sexual variant... yet the description for 1 doesn't describe me at all (with the exception of the emotions showing weakness description) & my second most likely number is 5? i am confused.

misutii
24 Jan 2005, 10:23 AM
i had 4 very much ahead with 5 and 3 both closeby so i'll claim two wings and have 4x5x3