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jittus rye
18 Oct 2004, 01:04 PM
I am curious how many people here posess more than one way of thought. I posses both a good and evil way of thought.

One is loving, creative, and ambitious.
The other is creative, angry, and sadistic.

What do you think about this. It doesn't feel good to feel murderous. What do you think? I'm not quite sure, but I Think both strive for perfection.

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Please comment anyone.

cloakable
18 Oct 2004, 01:36 PM
I am curious, what exactly do you mean by 'more than one way of thought'?

Perhaps it's a reflection of my own core personality - beyond the MBTI, and to the parts that make me me. I don't believe in artifical divisions such as good and evil, as I feel they get in the way of rational thought. While I do have my own moral set, I do not label it good or evil.

jittus rye
18 Oct 2004, 01:49 PM
They are totally seperate. It is hard to explain. The other way just loses all rationality when one way is in gear. It is kind of curious. For example. When I become homicidal, I don't have what I would label good thoughts anymore. And when I have good thoughts I don't have homicidal ones. I think it has something to do with fear, I am not sure. But fear keeps me in line. Without fear I go crazy.

shaytana
18 Oct 2004, 03:25 PM
How much time do you spend in each phase?

jittus rye
18 Oct 2004, 03:26 PM
Somedays one, some days the other.

SensEye
18 Oct 2004, 04:54 PM
When I become homicidal, I don't have what I would label good thoughts anymore.

* Note to self * - if encounter Firechoice at theoretical INTP con, RUN! :D

Ckyzxr
20 Oct 2004, 01:20 AM
I'm with cloakable in that I don't have good and evil as a defined state or description. I despise the use of "evil" in our society to describe anything. I think "good" is simply an personal affirmation of the subject in question.

I guess it's because "evil" and "good" are based upon interpretation of religious writings and I find most ideologies based upon fictionized accounts of history as ludicrous. :devil: :devil: :D :blink:

My perspectives on good and evil are involved, I could go on and on about this but I'm tired and I pretty sure my ramblings would be a struggle to interpret. Maybe I'll expand on this later but right now I'm ruminating on work.

jittus rye
20 Oct 2004, 01:26 AM
I'd love to hear the wonderful ramblings of a like minded fool.

booyalab
20 Oct 2004, 01:35 AM
I find C.S. Lewis' description of good and evil the most convincing. Good can exist without evil but evil can't exist without good. It's popular to think that they're 2 sides of the same coin (and I don't even have to read the rest of this thread to know that most of you probably said it..or it will be said sooner or later...) But this isn't apparent if you think of the dynamic of the two. The 'wrong' way of doing something is contingent on there being a 'right' way to do it, and deviating slightly from that way. However, it's easy to conceptualize the right way of doing something without knowing all of the variations on it. Everyone except the criminally insane has an understanding of this relationship (everyone does things that others consider evil, but everyone except the criminally insane tries to justify it-so it's "not evil" after all!-or is ashamed of it), the difference lies in where people cross the line between right way, right way w/ok variations and wrong way.

Postblank
20 Oct 2004, 02:16 AM
Evil is subjective and a tool of politicians, try to treat it like ancient mythology: fascinating but a completely obsolete way of thinking.

Avengardh
20 Oct 2004, 02:21 AM
No...but then again I have a lot of repressed anger.

¬_¬

Claverhouse
20 Oct 2004, 02:32 AM
Evil is subjective and a tool of politicians, try to treat it like ancient mythology: fascinating but a completely obsolete way of thinking.

Oh yeah ?

Obviously you've never felt the panic, ( in the original use of the term from the Great God Pan ), from a landscape; or read of what certain serial murderers/torturers have done...



Claverhouse :ph34r:



[ And nobody misunderstood them, either ]

jittus rye
20 Oct 2004, 04:05 AM
Claverhouse, you're very right, I think evil to most people is somewhat superficial in comparison to true evil.

Arioch
20 Oct 2004, 02:00 PM
I am curious how many people here posess more than one way of thought. I posses both a good and evil way of thought.

One is loving, creative, and ambitious.
The other is creative, angry, and sadistic.

What do you think about this. It doesn't feel good to feel murderous. What do you think? I'm not quite sure, but I Think both strive for perfection.

*edit*
Please comment anyone.

[insert: omnious chorus of voices] We believe you are in error. There is no division. We are One. There is no Good nor Evil Voices . Simply different Voices for different Songs.

Sing your notes to the Cosmic Harmony and create no dissonance. For here lies the true Evil.