CognitiveProcesses.com

[pangolin]

Someone previously posted a thread in which they refered to this survey:

http://cognitiveprocesses.com/assessment/survey.html

I think I posted my scores, or a link to them, but can no longer find the thread.

It was interesting because I came up with scores something like this:

TI 40 something
TE 28
NE 38
NI 37.5
SE (something low)
SI 38
FE (something very low)
FI 38

The 38's weren't all 38's but several were and the rest were just a little below. I'd like to find the scores I had before. They seem to illustrate the reason I occasionally wonder if I am actually INFP or ISTP, because they certainly indicate strong secondary inclinations of those sorts. This also seems to belie the theory that the other four functions are all at lower levels than the 4 main functions. I know someone discussed this a bit before, and I wish I had time to think about it and propose alternate theory.

If anyone knows where the original post went, please refer. Thanks.

:peep:

[waxwing]

http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=3082

[pangolin]

Thankee Muchly!


Edit: Well Fuck! I apparently didn't post my results, guess I gotta take it again. Slightly weirded out by the color codes though, I don't recall my results having any colors in them.

[distraction tactics]

I always liked that test for the function breakdown, and the fact it wasn't 180 questions long.

[tatsutahime6]

Hmm.

Ti (46.7%)
Ne (44.4%)
Fe (31.5%)
Si (26.4%)
Ni (25.3%)
Se (23.6%)
Te (22.2%)
Fi (19.3%)

[cathmc]

I took this test last year but lost the results. So i took it again. No surprises...highest on Ti and Ne. And my Se is 'unused'!

Se - extraverted Sensing
Experiencing the immediate context; noticing changes and opportunities for action; being drawn to act on the physical world; accumulating experiences; scanning for visible reactions and relevant data; recognizing “what is”.
Yeah, I don't really do that at all. (Maybe this is why I hate it when people say 'It is what it is'. Huh?)

[ferunandesu]

it said that the primary functions of an INTP are: Ti, Ne, Se, Fe
and that the "shadow" functions of an INTP are: Te, Ni, Si, Fi

i understand exactly why it has the type set up this way, but I don't like how it, and the MBTI in general, deemphasizes the "shadow" functions

for example, my functions break down as follows:
Ti, Ne, Ni, Fi, Te, Si, Se, Fe

a lot of INTP's would break down the same, except most would prefer Se over Si... but notice that two of my "shadow" functions are frequently used

i believe that if i were to type of a description of my type, then i should base it more off of the functions that i use the most, and not how they fit into a theoretical construct

so MY primary functions would be: Ti, Ne, Ni, Fi
and MY shadow functions would be Te, Si, Se, Fe

notice how they still follow a rough pattern, but that's irrelevant

Since my most used function is Ti, then the first letter of my type code should be I. The only perceiving function that is among my primary functions is N, so the second should be N. There are two judging functions among my primary functions, with T being dominant over F... Fi is still a primary function, so I'll have two functions in my type code where there used to only be one, and I'll put an upper case T and a lower case f. Finally, my primary judging functions are all introverted, and my dominant perceiving function is extroverted, so the last letter of my new type code will be P.

my new type code is: I-N-T-f-P

but, honestly, if i were to base my type solely on my primary functions (those which are used the most)... why not just say TiNeNiFi and be done with it?

also, couldn't I say that i'm an I-N-T-f-Ji ? Two of my primary functions are those of introverted judgement...

i could also write TeNeNiFi as I - Nei - Tf - Ji - P

or maybe even Ij - Np - Tp - Fp - Ep or IjNTFP for short since the last Ep would imply Np Tp Fp

[ptGatsby]

it said that the primary functions of an INTP are: Ti, Ne, Se, Fe
and that the "shadow" functions of an INTP are: Te, Ni, Si, Fi


It depends on who you talk to. Jung's notes were not clear on the 3rd function.

MBTI assumes that ours are Ti, Ne, Si, Fe... Jung(ians) believes it should be Ti, Ne, Se, Fe



a lot of INTP's would break down the same, except most would prefer Se over Si... but notice that two of my "shadow" functions are frequently used


There is a lot of confusion over this. Shadow functions are not 'unused' exactly... they are just shadow functions. No one is sure how they fit in.



my new type code is: I-N-T-f-P


That doesn't really make sense.

The I and the P designate attitudes within your NT preferences.

INTP means that you are an NT with a dominant Ti, where your irrational dominant is Ne. This means that your less used functions would follow S(i|e) and Fe. Its nothing more than a hierarchy.

My cognitive functions put Ti and Te in a close race to dominant... but I am certainly INTP because of the Ti-Ne mix. As a result, I'm much more of an INTP than an ENTJ (Te-Ni) or an INTJ (Ni-Te)... even though All four are up there (Ti-Te and Ne-Ni).

Shadow functions are supportive, they are not 'true preferences'. I, for example, Like to think on something for a very long time, work out problems, then put them into action. Least, until I get bored. That's a strong Ti-Te.

A Te-Ni would put things into action, but if he had a strong Ti, might try to put those things into some sort of logical order after.

Likewise, an INTJ, Ni-Te, tends to do before thinking... and never think about it again until useful (this is literally from my GF, heh).



but, honestly, if i were to base my type solely on my primary functions (those which are used the most)... why not just say TiNeNiFi and be done with it?


Because that isn't how it works...



also, couldn't I say that i'm an I-N-T-f-Ji ? Two of my primary functions are those of introverted judgement...


Judgement refers to your attitudes (Te vs Ti). There is no such thing as Ji.

[ferunandesu]

Because that isn't how it works...


I don't care how the MBTI works. I thought that I made it very clear that this was MY interpretation of my functions, and INTfP is MY type code. Ij and Ji is what I was using to note that all of MY primary judging functions are introverted. With MY primary functions being the 4 that are used the most.

Under MY system:

TeSiNiFe

comes out as:

E - S - n - T - f - J

i'm basically just making note of well used shadow functions...

[ptGatsby]

I don't care how the MBTI works.


The test you took was based on Jung's work, same as MBTI. The designations that you are using are MBTI. This assigns meaning to the letters... You should care how it works if you are at all interested in type; it is more than having just the four letters (or any amount of random ones).



I thought that I made it very clear that this was MY interpretation of my functions, and INTfP is MY type code.


I have no problem with how you see yourself. However, you are not using any of the definitions correctly, least as far as I can tell.



Ij and Ji is what I was using to note that all of MY primary judging functions are introverted. With MY primary functions being the 4 that are used the most.


What judging functions? There are two rational functions; T and F. Having a J means your rational function is extraverted... Ji and Je just doesn't make sense. I-J means that your irrational function (N/S) is Introverted and Dominant, with your rational function extraverted.

[ferunandesu]

The test you took was based on Jung's work, same as MBTI. The designations that you are using are MBTI. This assigns meaning to the letters... You should care how it works if you are at all interested in type; it is more than having just the four letters (or any amount of random ones).



I have no problem with how you see yourself. However, you are not using any of the definitions correctly, least as far as I can tell.



What judging functions? There are two rational functions; T and F. Having a J means your rational function is extraverted... Ji and Je just doesn't make sense. I-J means that your irrational function (N/S) is Introverted and Dominant, with your rational function extraverted.


judging functions = T and F, perceiving functions = N and S... but it doesn't matter, it's just a different way of saying it

i know how the MBTI works. i'm just tossing out (some of) the rules and definitions that it uses to assign types in favor of my own. i believe that frequently used MBTI "shadow" functions (Ni and Fi in my case) are more important than nearly unused MBTI "primary" functions (Si and Fe in my case)

i am still, however, assigning J or P based on what the dominant extroverted function is...

i coined Ji/Ij when i noted that of my primary functions (as defined by me), half of them were introverted judging functions (Ti, Fi)... shouldn't that say something about my personality?

the MBTI would assign anyone with a dominant function of Ti and an auxiliary function of Ne as an INTP... and that leaves a lot of room open for differences between INTP's...

my extra lower case letters are just to show that an individual has what would be considered an MBTI "shadow" function among what I would consider their primary functions... but if the bandit "shadow" function is an N when the person is already considered an N type, then no extra notation is needed

[Levity]

Cognitive Process
Level of Development (Preference, Skill and Frequency of Use)

extraverted Sensing (Se) (34.6) good use
introverted Sensing (Si) (13.8) unused
extraverted Intuiting (Ne) (45.8) excellent use
introverted Intuiting (Ni) (39.4) excellent use
extraverted Thinking (Te) (20.1) limited use
introverted Thinking (Ti) (39.9) excellent use
extraverted Feeling (Fe) (15.1) unused
introverted Feeling (Fi) (30.5) good use

Summary Analysis of Profile
By focusing on the strongest configuration of cognitive processes, your pattern of responses most closely matches individuals of this type: INTP

Lead (Dominant) Process
Introverted Thinking (Ti): Gaining leverage (influence) using a framework. Detaching to study a situation from different angles and fit it to a theory, framework or principle. Checking for accuracy. Using leverage to solve the problem.

Support (Auxilliary) Process
Extraverted Intuiting (Ne): Exploring the emerging patterns. Wondering about patterns of interaction across various situations. Checking what hypotheses and meanings fit best. Trusting what emerges as you shift a situation’s dynamics.

If these cognitive processes don't fit well then consider these types: ENTP, or INFP

--- Ne, Ti, Ni, Se, Fi, Te, Fe, Si

And I always thought I was ENTP... still do :)

[booyalab]

extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ****************************************** (42.6)
excellent use
introverted Intuiting (Ni) ***************************************** (41.7)
excellent use
introverted Thinking (Ti) ************************************* (37.6)
excellent use
extraverted Thinking (Te) *********************************** (35.6)
good use
introverted Feeling (Fi) ***************************** (29.5)
average use
extraverted Sensing (Se) ********************* (21.5)
limited use
introverted Sensing (Si) ****************** (18.2)
limited use
extraverted Feeling (Fe) ************* (13.3)
unused

Summary Analysis of Profile
By focusing on the strongest configuration of cognitive processes, your pattern of responses most closely matches individuals of this type: INTP

[headfonez]

Here's my score(s)

TI 0
TE 0
NE 0 something
NI 0
SE 0.0
SI 0
FE (very low score ..0)
FI 0 I think let me check- yep 0

[TelecomClone]

introverted Thinking (Ti) ****************************************************** (54.5)
excellent use
extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ******************************************** (44.4)
excellent use
extraverted Thinking (Te) ************************************** (38.1)
excellent use
introverted Intuiting (Ni) ******************************* (31.7)
good use
introverted Sensing (Si) ************************** (26.8)
average use
introverted Feeling (Fi) *********************** (23.9)
limited use
extraverted Sensing (Se) ************** (14)
unused
extraverted Feeling (Fe) ****** (6.4)
unused


Summary Analysis of Profile
By focusing on the strongest configuration of cognitive processes, your pattern of responses most closely matches individuals of this type: INTP

Lead (Dominant) Process
Introverted Thinking (Ti): Gaining leverage (influence) using a framework. Detaching to study a situation from different angles and fit it to a theory, framework or principle. Checking for accuracy. Using leverage to solve the problem.

Support (Auxilliary) Process
Extraverted Intuiting (Ne): Exploring the emerging patterns. Wondering about patterns of interaction across various situations. Checking what hypotheses and meanings fit best. Trusting what emerges as you shift a situation’s dynamics.

[Snowflake]

Here's my latest test:


introverted Thinking (Ti) ********************************************** (46.6)
excellent use
extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ********************************************** (46.4)
excellent use
introverted Sensing (Si) ******************************* (31.3)
good use
extraverted Sensing (Se) ****************************** (30.7)
good use
introverted Feeling (Fi) ************************* (25.5)
average use
introverted Intuiting (Ni) ******************** (20.9)
limited use
extraverted Feeling (Fe) ******************* (19.9)
limited use
extraverted Thinking (Te) ****************** (18.3)
limited use

[mildchild]

Cognitive Process Level of Development (Preference, Skill and Frequency of Use)


extraverted Sensing (Se) ******************** (20.7)
limited use

introverted Sensing (Si) ********************** (22.7)
limited use

extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ****************************************** (42.3)
excellent use

introverted Intuiting (Ni) *********************************** (35.6)
good use

extraverted Thinking (Te) ****************************** (30.7)
good use

introverted Thinking (Ti) ********************************************* (45.1)
excellent use

extraverted Feeling (Fe) ************** (14.6)
unused

introverted Feeling (Fi) **************************** (28.9)
average use

[raincrow007]

introverted Thinking (Ti) ****************************************** (42.4)
excellent use
extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ***************************************** (41.3)
excellent use
introverted Intuiting (Ni) **************************************** (40.1)
excellent use
extraverted Thinking (Te) ******************************* (31.2)
good use
introverted Feeling (Fi) *************************** (27.2)
average use
extraverted Sensing (Se) ************************ (24.3)
average use
introverted Sensing (Si) ********************** (22)
limited use
extraverted Feeling (Fe) *********** (11.9)
unused <_<

By focusing on the strongest configuration of cognitive processes, your pattern of responses most closely matches individuals of this type: INTP

[TelecomClone]

Ha @ extroverted Feeling (Fe). By and large it seems to be everyone's trash stat.

[Snowflake]

Why is it that everyone here has more Ni and Te than me?

I did worse on Te than Fe. Maybe I fucked up the test.

[watch]

extraverted Sensing (Se) ************** (14.6)
unused
introverted Sensing (Si) ****************************** (30.6)
good use
extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ***************************** (29.8)
average use
introverted Intuiting (Ni) ************************************* (37.8)
excellent use
extraverted Thinking (Te) ************************** (26.7)
average use
introverted Thinking (Ti) **************************************** (40.7)
excellent use
extraverted Feeling (Fe) ******************** (20.7)
limited use
introverted Feeling (Fi) ************************************** (38.7)
excellent use

[mr. treat]

extraverted Sensing (Se) ******** (8.7)
unused

introverted Sensing (Si) ***************************************** (41.8)
excellent use

extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ******************************* (32)
good use

introverted Intuiting (Ni) ******************************* (31.6)
good use

extraverted Thinking (Te) ************************************ (36)
excellent use

introverted Thinking (Ti) ********************************************** (46.8)
excellent use

extraverted Feeling (Fe) ** (2.4)
unused

introverted Feeling (Fi) **************************************** (40.9)
excellent use

[earwax]

extraverted Sensing (Se) ************************ (24.2)
average use

introverted Sensing (Si) ******************************** (32.9)
good use

extraverted Intuiting (Ne) *********************************************** (47.4)
excellent use

introverted Intuiting (Ni) ******************** (20.8)
limited use

extraverted Thinking (Te) *********************** (23.9)
limited use

introverted Thinking (Ti) ************************************************ (48.4)
excellent use

extraverted Feeling (Fe) ************* (13.8)
unused

introverted Feeling (Fi) **************************** (28.2)
average use

[Snowflake]

extraverted Feeling (Fe) ** (2.4)
unused

Damn

[mr. treat]

Damn

my feelings are my own.

i've been severely depressed for about 10 months, i think that has something to do with it too.

[AcidGoethe]

extraverted Sensing (Se) ******************************* (31.8)
introverted Sensing (Si) ************************* (25.1)
extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ************************** (26.7)
introverted Intuiting (Ni) ********************************** (34)
extraverted Thinking (Te) ********************************************************* (57.6)
introverted Thinking (Ti) ****************** (18.7)
extraverted Feeling (Fe) ****************** (18.5)
introverted Feeling (Fi) ************************** (26.8)

[Nindy]

Cognitive Process Level of Development (Preference, Skill and Frequency of Use)
extraverted Sensing (Se) ************** (14.5)
unused
introverted Sensing (Si) *********************** (23.9)
limited use
extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ************************************* (37.9)
excellent use
introverted Intuiting (Ni) ****************************************** (42)
excellent use
extraverted Thinking (Te) ******************* (19.8)
limited use
introverted Thinking (Ti) ************************************************* (49.1)
excellent use
extraverted Feeling (Fe) ************************ (24.1)
average use
introverted Feeling (Fi) **************************** (28.3)
average use


Summary Analysis of Profile
By focusing on the strongest configuration of cognitive processes, your pattern of responses most closely matches individuals of this type: INTP

[Common]

extraverted Sensing (Se) ******************** (20)
limited use
introverted Sensing (Si) **************************** (28.9)
average use
extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ********************************** (34.1)
good use
introverted Intuiting (Ni) ********************************** (34)
good use
extraverted Thinking (Te) *************************** (27.9)
average use
introverted Thinking (Ti) **************************************** (40.1)
excellent use
extraverted Feeling (Fe) *********************** (23)
limited use
introverted Feeling (Fi) ******************************** (32)
good use

[Mr. Beef]

extraverted Sensing (Se) ******************* (19.1)
limited use
introverted Sensing (Si) ************************ (24.2)
average use
extraverted Intuiting(Ne)*************************************************** (51.7)
excellent use
introverted Intuiting (Ni) ************************************ (36.8)
excellent use
extraverted Thinking (Te) ********************** (22.3)
limited use
introverted Thinking (Ti) ************************************************* (49.5)
excellent use
extraverted Feeling (Fe) (-0.7) (ummmm....wtf?)
unused
introverted Feeling (Fi) **************************************** (40.4)
excellent use

[Nindy]

In order, from most frequently used to less, these are my average results after taking the test several times (all with sincere answers):

Ti
Ni
Ne
Fi

Si
Te
Fe
Se

[Edmond Zedo]

I get tired of saying it, because no one listens, or just disagrees, but I think 8 functions is nonsense. I think each of the four is focused externally or internally.

[booyalab]

I get tired of saying it
then stop saying it

[Edmond Zedo]

then stop saying it
They keep asking tho.

[ferunandesu]

They keep asking tho.

shut up. there are 8 functions:

the normal 4 with their two preferences and...

the dark 4, those with no preference... mwuhahahaha!!!

[INTrPosr]

I get tired of saying it, because no one listens, or just disagrees, but I think 8 functions is nonsense. I think each of the four is focused externally or internally.Actually Edmond there is judging functions T/F, and perceiving functions S/N which makes four. As you state, the functions are internal or external, which makes 8.

[rivercrow]

extraverted Sensing (Se) ******************* (19)
limited use
introverted Sensing (Si) ***************************** (29.2)
average use
extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ******************************************* (43.5)
excellent use
introverted Intuiting (Ni) ********************************** (34.2)
good use
extraverted Thinking (Te) ******************************* (31.2)
good use
introverted Thinking (Ti) ********************************** (34.2)
good use
extraverted Feeling (Fe) ****************** (18.2)
limited use
introverted Feeling (Fi) ******************************* (31.3)
good use

I think I was much more polarized when I originally took this at age 17. At 36, my preferences are flattening some.

"If these cognitive processes don't fit well then consider these types: ENTP, or INFP." INFP?? Actually, I can sort of see that as applicable to me....

[Tonks]

extraverted Sensing (Se) ************************ (24.2)
average use
introverted Sensing (Si) *************************** (27.1)
average use
extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ********************************** (34.1)
good use
introverted Intuiting (Ni) **************************** (28)
average use
extraverted Thinking (Te) *************************** (27.9)
average use
introverted Thinking (Ti) ******************************************* (43.2)
excellent use
extraverted Feeling (Fe) ****************** (18.2)
limited use
introverted Feeling (Fi) ************************************* (37.1)
excellent use


Gee. I thought my Fe was at least a bit higher than my Fi.
So the sequence of my preferences is:

Ti
Fi
Ne

Ni
Te
Si
Se

Fe

Not your typical INTP profile. But then again, I might have developed some preference due to practice (I'm 31). Although I thought I had put so much effort into developing my social skills...

[digesthisickness]

extraverted Sensing (Se) (34.5)
good use

introverted Sensing (Si) (14.7)
unused

extraverted Intuiting (Ne) (43.6)
excellent use

introverted Intuiting (Ni) (40.6)
excellent use

extraverted Thinking (Te) (16.3)
limited use

introverted Thinking (Ti) (40.5)
excellent use

extraverted Feeling (Fe) (14)
unused

introverted Feeling (Fi) (36.6)
excellent use

Summary Analysis of Profile
By focusing on the strongest configuration of cognitive processes, your pattern of responses most closely matches individuals of this type: INTP

If these cognitive processes don't fit well then consider these types: ENTP, or INFP

for some reason, that "limited use" one bothered me, while the "unused" ones didn't effect me at all. i think as long as it's "unused" it's as if i don't bother, but "limited"... well, that's like i try but suck at it.

wonderful

[distraction tactics]

for some reason, that "limited use" one bothered me, while the "unused" ones didn't effect me at all. i think as long as it's "unused" it's as if i don't bother, but "limited"... well, that's like i try but suck at it.

wonderful

You just need to bully people more.

That's all Te is good for, right? :whistle: