Is there a higher percentage of atheism in INTP types?

centerofthesun · 03-28-2008, 01:09 PM

I added a nice little poll in to foster the discussion somewhat.

I don't want to be biased and say that atheism is more logical, and thus why more INTP's would be atheists.. because that's my personal opinion. With SLOAN types, there is the "atheist/agnostic tendencies" attribute added into a few types, including mine. This suggests that, if SLOAN types (and namely, the attribute) are accurate, then perhaps the fact that many INTP'S have a type of RCUEI or similar with the attribute (Reference: http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=6031 ) would suggest that INTP's have a higher tendency to be atheists.. discuss.
Edit: I apologize. My options in the poll should have been different. I shouldn't have put religion into it, since atheism/agnosticism is about god[s].

Hayquipa · 03-28-2008, 01:36 PM

Why do you equate neutral with agnostic? And what do you mean by neutral? An ambivalent approach to the idea of God? Is that even possible? And, isn`t it possible to be both an agnostic and a(n) (a)theist?

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Originally Posted by centerofthesun

Edit: I apologize. My options in the poll should have been different. I shouldn't have put religion into it, since atheism/agnosticism is about god[s].

Perhaps you could ask the madmins to fix it for you?

centerofthesun · 03-28-2008, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Hayquipa

Why do you equate neutral with agnostic? And what do you mean by neutral? An ambivalent approach to the idea of God? Is that even possible? And, isn`t it possible to be both an agnostic and a(n) (a)theist?

Yes, essentially agnostics are atheists. They lack a belief in any gods. I equated neutral with agnostic because the agnostic belief is that no one can ever know of any gods on Earth. This is similar to neutrality of religion or spirituality. Atheism is more often (but not always) more assertive, rather than passive.

Karl · 03-28-2008, 01:47 PM

People try to tell me that I'm an agnostic because I'm not sure that there's no god. Guess what, I'm not sure you're real either. I just think that makes sense.

Hayquipa · 03-28-2008, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by centerofthesun

Yes, essentially agnostics are atheists. They lack a belief in any gods. I equated neutral with agnostic because the agnostic belief is that no one can ever know of any gods on Earth. This is similar to neutrality of religion or spirituality. Atheism is more often (but not always) more assertive, rather than passive.

Agnostics and atheists are often thrown in the same bunch. Agnosticism is not about a belief or disbelief in God. Agnosticism is only the belief that one cannot know if there is a God or not. Therefore it is quite possible to be an agnostic and still believe in God. For example, I am an agnostic christian.

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Originally Posted by KarlMarx

People try to tell me that I'm an agnostic because I'm not sure that there's no god. Guess what, I'm not sure you're real either. I just think that makes sense.

Which would make you an agnostic atheist?

Karl · 03-28-2008, 02:02 PM

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Which would make you an agnostic atheist?

Sounds unnecessarily verbose. Wouldn't "agnostic atheism" be a subset of atheism?

centerofthesun · 03-28-2008, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KarlMarx

Sounds unnecessarily verbose. Wouldn't "agnostic atheism" be a subset of atheism?

Not necessarily.. it's atheism all the same, just with more specifics as to what you believe. Agnostics believe no one can know of a god, and atheists lack a belief in god.

centerofthesun · 03-28-2008, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Hayquipa

Agnostics and atheists are often thrown in the same bunch. Agnosticism is not about a belief or disbelief in God. Agnosticism is only the belief that one cannot know if there is a God or not. Therefore it is quite possible to be an agnostic and still believe in God. For example, I am an agnostic christian.

Well, would you have been any happier if I had put agnosticism and atheism into the same option? I didn't want the poll to be too complicated and make options for agnostics who are religous, atheists who believe in the good of religion, deists, pantheists, etc etc.

V. Profane · 03-28-2008, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Hayquipa

Which would make you an agnostic atheist?

Agnostics are atheists because they don't believe in god, it doesn't matter why. Most people aren't agnostic about other unlikely, unproven (or unprovable) things they don't believe, like vampires or psychics, they just say they don't believe in them without feeling the need to cover their ass. Sure, you'll find some 'atheists' who will claim that there definitely is no god, but they'll probably be 14 years old and really pissed off at their mom.

centerofthesun · 03-28-2008, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by V Profane

Sure, you'll find some 'atheists' who will claim that there definitely is no god, but they'll probably be 14 years old and really pissed off at their mom.

Well, I may be 14 but I'm neither pissed off at my mother nor claim that god has been disproven.. but yes, the term is strong atheism, and you'll find that many adults choose that position. Perhaps not proportionately, but many prominent atheists are not agnostic. Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens.. although, if they were agnostic, they would probably not be so outspoken.

View Poll Results: Are you an atheist?
I am not an INTP	7	5.69%
No, I have a religion/am spiritual	24	19.51%
No, my view on religion is neutral/agnostic	36	29.27%
Yes, I am an atheist	56	45.53%
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centerofthesun Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Type: INTP Posts: 73 Gameroom cash: $3810	Is there a higher percentage of atheism in INTP types? I added a nice little poll in to foster the discussion somewhat. I don't want to be biased and say that atheism is more logical, and thus why more INTP's would be atheists.. because that's my personal opinion. With SLOAN types, there is the "atheist/agnostic tendencies" attribute added into a few types, including mine. This suggests that, if SLOAN types (and namely, the attribute) are accurate, then perhaps the fact that many INTP'S have a type of RCUEI or similar with the attribute (Reference: http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=6031 ) would suggest that INTP's have a higher tendency to be atheists.. discuss. Edit: I apologize. My options in the poll should have been different. I shouldn't have put religion into it, since atheism/agnosticism is about god[s]. __________________ RCUEI (Extroversion [36%] Orderliness [30%] Emotional Stability [64%] Accommodation [42%] Inquisitiveness [74%])

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03-28-2008, 01:47 PM	#4
Karl Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Type: ISFJ Posts: 4,367 Gameroom cash: $7004	People try to tell me that I'm an agnostic because I'm not sure that there's no god. Guess what, I'm not sure you're real either. I just think that makes sense.